Posted on 03/08/2017 4:56:16 AM PST by NowApproachingMidnight
Let's help.
I know exactly what you defended.
I agree:
Every problem is an excuse for concentrating power in the hands of government.
Ping for later.
People have been known to turn their lives around with God’s help and grace. You are probably not as perfect as you think you are.
In my part of flyover, the people struggling are in small rural towns where there is no prospect for a good job and they turn to crime and drugs.
The other evolving issue is the synthetic opioids from China. They are much, much more potent. When a batch of that hits a town, you can almost follow the dealer based on the sounds of the sirens of first responders going to give the users narcan.
Most of the heroin in the USA is both manufactured and smuggled in from Mexico...heroin is the drug of choice with those who can’t afford the higher price of the opiate pills...
All the more reason to build the wall and get those extra 10K border agents on duty asap...
I was on hydrocodone for six years as treatment for arthritis, stenosis, and chronic pain (basically I am in waiting for a fourth spinal operation). Through self medication, I was able to identify a minimum dose that would give me enough relief to have relatively good days. Then Florida passed more restrictive laws on controlled drugs as a result of the “pill factories” that had sprung up. First, prescriptions were cut from a 90 day supply to 30 days and they could no longer be called in. In essence this tripled the cost to Medicare for getting a prescription. Next, my doctor decided I needed to be off all controlled substances. To show him I was not an addict, I went cold turkey with the result of increasing my use of naproxen. This led to my developing gerd and prescription stomach medicine. Next, I was given non addictive medicines, costing much more than opioids and frankly less effective. My following courses of treatment have been physical therapy (helps but allowed sessions are too few), nerve ablation (basically a temporary and partial relief), Botox injections (very expensive), trigger point injections and epidurals. All of this has greatly increased the cost of my treatment to the point that I’m embarrassed. The cost savings of opioids over my subsequent treatment is huge!
I firmly believe there are a large number of people who can be effectively and cheaply treated with opioids without being a threat to society. Because of the negative publicity, lawmakers made a knee jerk reaction to limit the use of opioids. I concede that the potential for abuse exists but think that more research and treatment for addictive personalities is the answer, not limiting a cheap and effective form of treatment.
Because that’s not the group being killed. The group dying are the people we over prescribe opioids to, your neighbors. Got any friends with chronic pain? Guess what they’ve been deliberately addicted to.
Let them have all the drugs they want for free or real cheap. That will keep them from hurting or robbing people to get it. Soon enough the problem will take care of itself.
Build the wall. It won’t shut it down completely but it will go a long way towards lessening the supply.
Amen. The current policies punish the innocent and do not deter the guilty. My wife is in desperate, intractable neck and back pain. She has had four operations and is fused from C-2 to T-2. She cannot get the relief that would allow her to do physical therapy and begin to return her to functionality.
I did just read about some promising approaches to this. There is a trial on rats using a fentanyl derivative NFEPP. For fentanyl to work it must be protonated. Fentanyl is protonated everywhere int he body (pKa over 8). This derivative is only protonated at sites of inflammation (where pH is lower, NFEPP is pKa 6.8). Thus it hits opiate receptors at an injury and not in the brain. Trials on rats are good, but who knows where we will wind up.
I worked in a big city ER for years.I've seen more drug addicts...more drug ODs...than you've had hot meals.I don't know much about much but I *do* know drugs and drug *addicts*.
You can thank the CIA, GWB, and OBOLA for this.
On no, its quite real. My brother used to work for the Nat Gas company, he used to have to go into homes sometimes to fix whatever... told me things I would never have though possible... WAY worse than i ever thought..
Maybe that is where you get your slanted opinion. You saw people who you viewed as lesser than you coming to you for help. These were people you felt comfortable looking down on and judging.
Perhaps if you saw more of your neighbors burying their 20 year old college student children or your otherwise honorable family members slowly crumble into addiction you wouldn't think that it was merely a "morals problem".
Out here in the midwest it is an epidemic and I feel terribly sorry for my neighbors and friends who have family members struggling with this.
Sorry if I am coming across as pissed but I was originally conflating your argument with the guy above you who was actually hoping for more addicts to die.
Give it to them free on demand and slip in a hot load now and then to cull the herd. They want “choice’; let ‘em have it!
You mean like liberals in general, and progressives in particular?
To clarify, I'm talking about the so-called recreational users of dope who have become addicted by their own choice.
My condolences for your brother. Nine months seems a little long for latent alcohol use heart attack. Any man over 50 should be taking magnesium and K2/D3 supplements to avoid critical deficiencies which may cause a heart attack. It was recently discovered that Zithromycin and insufficient magnesium poses a significant risk of heart failure. I had to double my magnesium supplement during recent Zithromycin usage after experiencing chest pain.
Regarding your bone pain have you considered skeletal flourosis? I had that in the late ‘90s affecting an Army LoD back injury and my ability to participate in my VA VOC Rehab. I was in my ‘30s and the VA wanted to admit me to a VA long term care facility aka nursing home. A FReeper recommended Reverse Osmosis drinking water and that was the beginning of my return to health. The VA gave me Midrin/Isometheptine which was great but temporary. Many times I couldn’t get the pills down before the stomach turned from the pain. Using RO water and fasting I was able to identify the foods which had flouride and which didn’t. I went to a restricted diet to reduce the pain, making life tolerable. Prior to that I would have monthly 3-day bouts of extreme pain which would wipe my short-term memory. It was kinda neat in a way coming out of it, rediscovering everything.
It took 2 years to leech the flouride out of my bones. I also added Cetyl Myristoleate to reduce bone and joint pain and increase moblity. Every month there was noticible reduction in pain and improved mobility. It took 8 years of this to reduce my chronic back pain to a 1.
RO water, avoiding flouride and using Cetyl Myristoleate gave me a normal life again. Best of luck.
None of that is going to fix -4 OP, and spinal degeneration, bone spurs, bulges, herniation, annular tears and collapsed disc.
I already take the K2,D3, Selenium which is a very over looked trace mineral, Mag Citrate, and Coral Cal. Probiotics 70 billion and Digestive enzymes. I refuse those nasty OP drugs. They will kill you.
The unfortunate side effect of being a long term alcoholic is heath conditions that don’t go away. Frank had gained 200 lbs and become a undiagnosed diabetic, he hated doctors. They are just guessing, didn’t want to do a autopsy on a 2 day dead man to find the real reason. Enlarged hearts is a small genetic hit and miss trait for our family. I have 1 with a to small to fix leaky valve. Our uncle had 1 it finally burst.
You should see my drug side effect list it is a full 11 font size long. And I grouped several together as 1. I Think doctors are more ill educated today than they were 20 yrs ago. Since when is an Internist qualified to treat Endocrinology issues? They lack 4 yrs of training and being able to read lab reports. I don’t get along with my PCP because she is DUMB for all the fact she has a medical education, I know more about my health than she does. And more about the drugs used to treat it. I take the time to do the research.
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