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Opioids Killing More Now
Economist ^ | 3/9/17 | NA

Posted on 03/08/2017 4:56:16 AM PST by NowApproachingMidnight

Let's help.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: death; drugs; wod
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1 posted on 03/08/2017 4:56:16 AM PST by NowApproachingMidnight
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Last summer my daughter’s house was broken into, ransacked and property stolen by a couple of dopers. Why would I care how many of them die with a needle in their arm?
I hope more of them die. It’ll make the neighborhood safer.


2 posted on 03/08/2017 5:01:47 AM PST by BuffaloJack (The Democrats haven't been this aggitated since Lincoln took away their slaves.)
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To: BuffaloJack
Last summer my daughter’s house was broken into, ransacked and property stolen by a couple of dopers. Why would I care how many of them die with a needle in their arm? I hope more of them die. It’ll make the neighborhood safer.

Yeah, that's the spirit.

3 posted on 03/08/2017 5:05:07 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

I was really shocked at just how epidemic this is, even in smaller towns that you wouldnt think would be that way... scary...


4 posted on 03/08/2017 5:07:34 AM PST by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: BuffaloJack

I doubt any of your family has ever been addicted to drugs. That’s nice.


5 posted on 03/08/2017 5:16:02 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Interesting article (including prescription drugs) Thanks for posting.

Health/life BUMP!


6 posted on 03/08/2017 5:16:11 AM PST by PGalt (HOORAY President Donald J. Trump)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Wonder if they have an alcoholic data study

Much worse


7 posted on 03/08/2017 5:19:11 AM PST by uncbob
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Although there could be cases (rare,I suspect) of people with real pain and,thus,a real need for narcotics (cancer patients,for example) getting hooked on drugs I’m convinced that the overwhelming majority of addicts are just weak,immoral creatures.


8 posted on 03/08/2017 5:20:02 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

From the map, the problem seems to be worst in Working Class areas, which is why the media is virtually silent on it.

Nothing like their response to AIDS.


9 posted on 03/08/2017 5:20:37 AM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: BuffaloJack

take away the prescribed pills and they choose heroin


10 posted on 03/08/2017 5:23:18 AM PST by barbarianbabs
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

“At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge, ... it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.”
“Are there no prisons?”
“Plenty of prisons...”
“And the Union workhouses.” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?”
“Both very busy, sir...”
“Those who are badly off must go there.”
“Many can’t go there; and many would rather die.”
“If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

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The problem is not that dopers are not dying fast enough from their stupid choice to poison themselves (and often rob others to fund their self-destructive habit). The problem is thinking that government is the answer to this problem or to any other social problem.

The proper solution is in our churches and our communities. Drugs are a terrible problem, and we need to provide alternatives so that children don’t choose to start down that terrible path, support so those who make that mistake can recover their lives, and enforcement so that those who deal drugs end up behind bars forever. Once a desperate and potentially-violent druggie breaks into my home, I am perfectly willing to shoot him, center-mass, to stop the threat. However, before they break in to homes or rob people on the streets, I would like to see them saved and their lives restored by Christian charitable efforts.


11 posted on 03/08/2017 5:25:59 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Every problem is an excuse for concentrating power in the hands of government.


12 posted on 03/08/2017 5:27:17 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: BuffaloJack
I see you're signing up for the thread s**t-for-brains competition.

Your chances are excellent. Keep up the good work.

13 posted on 03/08/2017 5:27:23 AM PST by AAABEST (Got Traditional Catholicism? - Angelqueen.org)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Oh I bet the lefties are just doing this to get rid of our pain meds (from the pain they seem to enjoy inflicting on us daily) or the pharmaceutical companies are trying to get legislation passed where opioids are more regulated and less available so they can jack up their prices.


14 posted on 03/08/2017 5:29:45 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: ilovesarah2012

I doubt any of your family’s home has ever been invaded by some stranger. That’s nice.


15 posted on 03/08/2017 5:29:49 AM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: PGalt

There are 1.33 million chronic pain patient in the US, their health conditions can’t be cured, Opioids are all they have for any form of life beyond a bed still in pain.

Roughly 16% of drug OD’s are done by those who use script drugs with other agents or get illegal street drugs LACED with Fentanyl that was stolen from a pharmacy by a crook or a crooked employee. There has been a 40% increase in such OD’s.

Then what about that person like my brother who drank himself to death by creating bad health issues, we just buried him 2 weeks ago.

DUMBO ordered the DEA to lower pain meds even for Cancer victims by 75%, doctors are afraid to prescribe pain meds any more.

Doctors are cutting opioids, even if it harms patients
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/01/02/doctors-curtail-opioids-but-many-see-harm-pain-patients/z4Ci68TePafcD9AcORs04J/story.html

Dr. Tennant. He basically summarized almost everything we have been saying regarding the CDC guidelines. It is very refreshing to read a more balanced view...
https://www.practicalpainmanagement.com/treatments/pharmacological/opioids/living-cdc-opioid-guidelines

Opioid Overdose Statistics: As Clear as Mud
https://www.painnewsnetwork.org/stories/2016/12/17/opioid-overdose-statistics-as-clear-as-mud?rq=pain%20statistics


16 posted on 03/08/2017 5:32:12 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: AAABEST

I see you’re signing up for the thread “whiney social liberal who prefers criminals to thei victims” competition.

Your chances are excellent. Keep up the good work


17 posted on 03/08/2017 5:35:33 AM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Although there could be cases (rare,I suspect) of people with real pain and,thus,a real need for narcotics (cancer patients,for example) getting hooked on drugs I’m convinced that the overwhelming majority of addicts are just weak,immoral creatures.

I think it's more of a question of timing. Imagine being at the low point of your life and chance offers a tempting way out. Sometimes that way out is suicide, and sometimes it is drugs, but almost anything looks good when you've hit bottom. Some of us look and say "no, this is temporary, and it will get better without making such a stupid choice". Others, no more imperfect than us, just imperfect in different ways or facing exactly the wrong temptation at exactly the wrong time, make a terrible choice.

We all have the potential to be weak or immoral in one way or another, but some don't have the strength, courage, faith, or timing to turn to Jesus when we are not strong enough. Note: I've never even considered suicide or drugs. However, I did receive a VERY tempting offer of another kind at a time when I was dealing with a lot of big problems. Satan is not stupid (which is proof that Barack Obama was not Satan); Satan will hit you with the most tempting idea he has at exactly the worst time in your life for you to resist. I find it hard to blame weakness or immorality when we are facing such a powerful adversary - none of us by ourselves can be sure of prevailing against those odds.

18 posted on 03/08/2017 5:35:54 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

I’m honestly of a mixed opinion on this.

There’s a young man at my church who lived in the drug lifestyle for several years. A friend convinced him to go to a Christian treatment facility where he became a believer and broke his addiction. He still struggles but the people at our church has really adopted and helped him.

Last year, a young man who I led as a Boy Scout for none years suddenly died with no explanation. My suspicions were confirmed last December when a friend told me that he overdosed on heroin. He was in college and we’d lost touch with him but I truly grieved for his family.

I think that the supply is almost unlimited and the price is low enough that getting hooked is easy.

Our small county had a 62% rise in overdoses from 2015 to 2016. That’s not a victimless crime. These guys may do it to themselves, but there’s a huge cost to their families, EMT’s and police. Both physical and emotional cost. The Fire Chief in our town was talking in a meeting recently about PTSD among first responders. Multiple OD runs certainly contribute.

I don’t know the answer, but building a wall will dramatically slow the easy influx. The scum will find another way, and we’ll deal with that when it arises.


19 posted on 03/08/2017 5:36:12 AM PST by cyclotic (Republicans Are without excuse. Flood the Resolute Desk with sane legislation.)
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You’d be wrong. You know nothing about what my family has been through.


20 posted on 03/08/2017 5:36:36 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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