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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Democrats are never going to pass a bill to kill Obamacare outright.

Of course, you can abolish the filibuster and the 60 vote threshold to pass non-budget legislation.

Then the Senate becomes exactly like the House. Sure, the GOP can do that unilaterally but as Harry Reid discovered to his regret, when you’re in the minority, you lose leverage.

Do Republicans really want to find themselves a powerless minority one day and is passing a complete repeal bill worth the cost?

We can do what you want by instituting pure majority rule in the Senate. That’s how the House is run.

If we abolish minority safeguards, we’re in uncharted waters. The Senate’s function as a “cooling saucer” for House legislation would be gone forever.

Like I said, if its that important, do it - but weigh carefully the consequences beforehand.


60 posted on 03/07/2017 8:41:49 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: goldstategop
Sure, the GOP can do that unilaterally but as Harry Reid discovered to his regret, when you’re in the minority, you lose leverage.

When did he discover this? When have them Dems ever paid a price for this?

Do Republicans really want to find themselves a powerless minority one day and is passing a complete repeal bill worth the cost?

Seems the Republicans are a powerless majority right now. What sense does that make? Historic majority in the House, significant majority in the Senate, and the White House. If we can't get it done now, then when????

63 posted on 03/07/2017 8:51:04 PM PST by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: goldstategop
The Senate’s function as a “cooling saucer” for House legislation would be gone forever.

That was never the Senate's function in the U.S. Constitution. It became the Senate's function through its own stupid rules. There's nothing sacred about a 60-vote majority in the Senate. You might have a stronger case for using the supermajority requirement in the Senate as protection against bad legislation if the place wasn't filled with so many @ssholes.

65 posted on 03/07/2017 8:52:16 PM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: goldstategop
Democrats are never going to pass a bill to kill Obamacare outright.

That's fine with me.

I want a straight repeal vote. If it doesn't pass, so be it; then the Trump administration should nuke all waivers and exemptions and force everyone to sign up for Obamacare then.

All Ryan is doing is giving GOP candidates the rope to hang themselves with in 2018 and jeopardizing their majority.

Like I said a million times: No Republican voted for Obamacare, so they are not obligated to try and "fix it" either. This notion that Republicans need to "do something" about replacing Obamacare is idiotic on its face. Let the thing implode on its own, and your precious Senate deliberations and process will be maintained.

72 posted on 03/07/2017 8:55:35 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (STOP THE TAPE!)
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To: goldstategop

How did we get it to Obama’s desk multiple times????


113 posted on 03/07/2017 9:22:15 PM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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