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To: Twotone

It’s like the Cowboys Herschel Walker trade. After it’s done, you can’t go back and get more.

I’ll say this again: Trump will either get people in jail or get his full agenda. He won’t get both. I guarantee I’d take the latter. People in jail will not reelect him, nor with that enable his agenda. Stonewalling and obstruction would increase.

You can have revenge or you can have a legacy. You won’t get both.


43 posted on 03/04/2017 7:24:05 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS
Not revenge because it's personal, and it belongs to someone else anyway.

Justice.

59 posted on 03/04/2017 7:29:51 AM PST by OKSooner (It's always loaded.)
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To: LS
I do not equate legally going after those who have committed serious federal crimes with "revenge". It is justce! Trump has said so many times he will be and is a Law and Order president, and that is one of the reasons millions of us voted for him.

I don't want revenge. I want JUSTICE SERVED! Not just for the little guys. This is something that millions of us care about deeply. Not for revenge. Quoting Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn again:

“In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.”

106 posted on 03/04/2017 7:48:08 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: LS

Can civilians get revenge/justice, even while the administration gets a legacy?


168 posted on 03/04/2017 8:21:51 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: LS

I’m not sure I want his FULL agenda. Family leave is another burden on business & we cannot afford a Trillion for infrastructure. I hope the Republicans are prepared to stop him on those.

Generally speaking, if you want to blackmail - or to put it more gently, twist the arm - of your opposition, you don’t go public with the charge. If you’re going to go public, you better have proof & you’d better be ready to follow it up with logical consequences. I’m not a chess player or even a poker player so no doubt others know better than I. But I hope Trump has a plan for how this plays out. The Obama/Soros cabal is so embedded in our bureaucracies & media, it’s going to take something like an earthquake to shut them down & move them out.


187 posted on 03/04/2017 8:31:57 AM PST by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: LS
He won’t get both.

Too funny when you consider your post...

And I'm always pleasantly surprised that Team Trump is one to a dozen steps ahead of anything I'm thinking.

Getting both might not be so improbable if he's ahead of anything you're thinking.

204 posted on 03/04/2017 8:40:55 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: LS
I’ll say this again: Trump will either get people in jail or get his full agenda. He won’t get both. I guarantee I’d take the latter. People in jail will not reelect him...

The problem is that these people will not stop.

Putting nobody in jail means that they can claim a partial victory, and live to fight another day.

Even if they fail to oust President Trump, as of now they have Flynn and two Sessions recusals on the scoreboard.

As I reposted last night in Democrat Playbook: "Pull the majority along as far as we can...", Democrats use investigations to drag Republicans into buying the rope used to hang them. Republicans help Democrats every step of the way.

Just as before with the Jay Rockefeller memo, Democrats have successfully turned the subject away from the content of their emails corrupting the Democrat primary process to Trump colluding with the Russians to corrupt the general election. And again, Republicans are playing their part.

Trump may be playing "3D chess and his enemies are playing Parcheesi," but Trump has to get his own party on the right game board, too, or they will undermine him after every move.

I'll also appeal to the historian: you are reminded of Sam Houston defeating Santa Ana at San Jacinto. I posted in early February that Democrats remind me of Hernan Cortes at Veracruz in 1519 when he scuttled his Fleet of ships so there was nowhere to go for the troops but forward.

The Blue Senators in Red States have nothing to go back to, even if they do compromise. It's a fight to the political death with Trump now. Win and they think they can keep their seats; lose and they will be ousted in the next mid-term election.

It's not Donald Trump versus Santa Ana, it's Donald Trump versus Hernan Cortes. Cortes was rejected and was desperate to regain his authority and stature, so he followed a scorched-earth plan to conquer his objectives.

-PJ

275 posted on 03/04/2017 9:48:08 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the first question.)
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To: LS
I’ll say this again: Trump will either get people in jail or get his full agenda. He won’t get both. I guarantee I’d take the latter. People in jail will not reelect him, nor with that enable his agenda. Stonewalling and obstruction would increase.

You can have revenge or you can have a legacy. You won’t get both.

Serious question...if the Dems/DeepState bureaucrats are stupid enough to back themselves into a corner where investigation(s) must be conducted, how can they be given an out that allows for no prosecutions and enacting his agenda?

IOW...prosecutions seem inevitable given that the DeepState/Dems/GOPe appear to have concluded that Trump is enough of a threat that they have outed their existence/coordination with each other.

I don't see how this ends well at all. Too much at stake on both sides and the pubic is waking up.

JMO and YMMV

492 posted on 03/06/2017 9:36:43 AM PST by Abundy
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