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To: butterdezillion

Hi BDZ,

I’ve been off the fake BC story for quite a while, I have a question, sorry if you’ve answered it already.

I was born in Brooklyn NY in the 1950s. I have an “original” BC which is a copy, made on some sort of antique copying system which reverses black and white, but with the seal of NYC on it. When I requested another copy from NYC in the early 2000s (I forget why I needed it), what I got was not a copy of the moldy old BC but a brand new form on nice new fancy paper, with all my info from the original rendered by a laser printer.

This must be common - I mean, when one requests an “analog” BC from a state, to get a “digital” one instead.

Is this possible in the case of the “fake” Hawaii BC?


182 posted on 03/04/2017 8:29:10 AM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: Jim Noble

Normally today you’d get a printed copy of the original, with signatures of the doctor and parents, etc. It would not show signs of forgery.

Obama’s problem is much bigger than the forged BC he posted. Alvin Onaka would not put his seal on any of the “verifications” issued. The seal that is on those “verifications” is that of Loretta Fuddy, who is only allowed to use that official DOH seal to verify documnts when HER SIGNATURE is nearby. She left off her signature. Why? Because she wanted people to think it was Onaka’s seal, accompanying his signature. Why did she need to trick people into thinking her seal was Onaka’s? Because Onaka would not put his seal.

The only lawful reason for Onaka to refuse to certify that verification is if he CANNOT verify that Obama has a valid BC in Hawaii and/or that the facts claimed on it are prima facia evidence.

IOW, the absence of Onaka’s seal on those verifications is Onaka’s way of saying that Obama does NOT have a valid Hawaii BC.

And Fuddy unlawfully putting her seal where her signature is not shows that she used the power of her office to deceive the entire country, to keep Obama in power.

Knowing that Onaka would not issue a verification for Obama, it seems highly likely to me that he would NOT have issued and certified a BC that looked like what was posted on the White House website. If he certified anything he most likely had the “LATE” and/or “ALTERED” stamps that would have shown the record to be non-valid.

My belief is that the many errors in the forgery were because the crooks had to scramble to erase those markings and put a fake generic “seal” to try to pass the thing off as real at the gaggle already scheduled for the next morning so Obama could gloat on his already-scheduled Oprah appearance.

But the biggest crimes are the ones done by the HDOH itself to give the appearance of confirming a valid BC for Obama. For years the only record the public was allowed to see was the birth index. But that birth index was altered to contain names from non-valid BC’s, as I have shown. That falsification was Obama’s ENTIRE legal figleaf for years!

The printouts of short-forms are supposed to be legally binding, but I have shown that the database itself was altered to nullify the validity of Virginia Sunahara’s birth record. The printouts are just a reflection of what is in the database so if the database is falsified then nothing printed from it can be trusted.

And the long-forms themselves are supposed to be legally binding. Those are harder to forge, which is probably why Fuddy illegally claimed that the HDOH would not print copies of long-form BC’s. And that’s probably why a judge refused to let Duncan Sunahara even have an in-person viewing of his deceased sister’s long-form BC as the law requires to be allowed. BUT even there we have proof that the HDOH forged long-form documents, since Virginia Sunahara’s certified STATE OF HAWAII death certificate has - in a different, misaligned font - a “T.H.” (Territory of Hawaii) file number.

So Onaka refused to issue a verification but Fuddy put her seal to hide that fact. We have evidence that the birth index was altered, the database was altered, and a certified copy of at least one falsified long-form record was issued by the HDOH. That is EVERY POSSIBLE kind of record that the HDOH could falsify. Four instances showing the multiple ways that the HDOH records were breached.

THAT is the real story. The White House forgery was only necessary because Onaka wasn’t willing to go along with the lie. Possibly because the Administrative Rules clearly state that the state registrar is the last line of defense and must NOT allow a certified copy to be issued for a vital record he/she believes was obtained fraudulently.


241 posted on 03/04/2017 9:07:53 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Jim Noble
made on some sort of antique copying system which reverses black and white, but with the seal of NYC on it.

Commonly called a photostat. Same thing happened to me. I registered my DD214 with County when I got out of service, when I request copies I still get the photostat. At least I did a few years back but BC from State was all new.

Both Rectigraph and Photostat machines consisted of a large camera that photographed documents or papers and exposed an image directly onto rolls of sensitized photographic paper that were about 350 feet (110 m) long. A prism was placed in front of the lens to reverse the image. After a 10-second exposure, the paper was directed to developing and fixing baths, then either air- or machine-dried. The result was a negative print, which took about two minutes in total to produce, which could in turn be photographed to make any number of positive prints

Once everything is committed to a database, and photos and hard copies are destroyed, everything is editable and expungable.

344 posted on 03/04/2017 11:07:50 AM PST by itsahoot (Return the power to the people, and Mexico will pay for the wall, 100%)
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