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1 posted on 03/04/2017 3:41:45 AM PST by navysealdad
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This seems kinda huge.

It’s looking like Obama laid a bunch of risky traps for Trump with the expectation that Hillary would win. But instead Trump won and is now in a position to expose everything.

It was a huge gamble by Obama. He was going to vanquish the Republicans by having their presidential candidate get nailed as a traitor in collusion with the Russians. That outcome was so tempting that he bet everything on it.

The question now is whether he had a contingency plan to cover things up in case the impossible happened and Trump won. That’s probably why ValJar was brought into the Obama compound — to help coordinate or shore up plan B.

Or maybe this is just Saturday morning overextrapolation. But if there’s any substance behind Trump’s tweets, I don’t see how this can be anything but huge.


135 posted on 03/04/2017 5:41:13 AM PST by Yardstick
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“turned down by the courts”

so far as i can understand as of this moment, from various online sources:

apparently the obama administration tried to apply to FISA to tap all the lines into trump tower, including those of a russian bank, for the relatively narrow justification that the russian bank was likely guilty of some wrongdoing. Apparently the FISA court turned them down on the overly broad wiretap request, but later granted a tailored version of that request to tap only the lines leading to the russian bank inside the trump tower.

apparently the obama adminstration went ahead and tapped all of the lines into the trump tower including the 2016 trump presidential campaign.

imho this would be watergate magnitude information, and could lead to criminal indictments inside the intelligence agencies against officials that exceeded the narrowly tailored FISA wiretap order against the russian bank. a prosecutor could follow the money and follow the paper trail all the way to the white hut and even potentially obama himself.

iow this story has watergate redux written all over it.

as for trump releasing this info on a saturday morning, another potential reason for the prima facie odd timing is that a saturday morning tweet minimizes fluctuations in the stock markets, which don’t open until monday morning. by that time, there is a news cycle consisting of the sunday talking head MSM political pundits and their guests. calmer heads should be able to prevail and (ideally) ensure that the financial analysts will take a more calm view than the political pundits and the worst of the chicken little skitters should (in theory imho) be over by monday morning when the stock markets open. (i suppose we will have to wait and see.) but trump being a businessman with his extensive business background is very unlikely to take any steps (even on twitter) without fully doing the stock market effects calculus beforehand.


138 posted on 03/04/2017 5:43:08 AM PST by SteveH
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Obama and his ilk are a bunch of third world communists. Praying to God Trump can bring hell down those bastards


146 posted on 03/04/2017 5:52:37 AM PST by I-Hawk
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What is Trump basing this allegation upon? The media will eat him up with pejoratives of being “paranoid” and “delusional”.

Where’s the beef?


147 posted on 03/04/2017 5:54:40 AM PST by Rebelbase
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At the very least, ALL hang overs from the 0 regime should have their security clearance reduced to the standards that are applied to a dish washer in the cafeteria.

Their computers should read NO ACCESS to anything beyond Candy Crush.


148 posted on 03/04/2017 5:55:06 AM PST by RetSignman
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Question:
Since Sessions had recused himself, does this mean he CANNOT investigate this incident because it happened during the campaign?
166 posted on 03/04/2017 6:23:39 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Seems Obama might be the thug many thought he was... or worse.


186 posted on 03/04/2017 7:28:39 AM PST by GOPJ ("Acting' is the art of lying convincingly. Outside of Hollywood that's 'con-men' stuff..)
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Bookmark


210 posted on 03/04/2017 8:40:04 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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.... Since a FISA sanctioned wiretap cannot be directed at a US facility WITHOUT probable cause that the phone lines or internet addresses were being used by agents of a foreign power. It was obviously the communications with Russia that was used as an excuse for the so called “Probable Cause.”


211 posted on 03/04/2017 8:43:54 AM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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Too bad there is no way to impeach the Kenyan


215 posted on 03/04/2017 8:48:21 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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Go to sleep for a couple hours and wake p to find a whole new scandal exploding. Wow! Obama and company wire tapped Trump and company. Should be easy enough to prove, President Trump now figuratively runs the government. Will everyone answer his team's questions, take their direction? Will the truth be covered up, clear cut, or inference? Guess that's the $64K question.

Imagine if true, further if turned down by a court, and done anyway. Flush out every one of them, from Obama on down and bring them to court, at least the court of public opinion. Does/did Obama have sovereign immunity? Will he and can everyone with him claim executive privilege?

What will Dems do? Pooh-pooh this as nothing? Defend it?

I guess for this to go anywhere we need names, dates, places. Recordings. Nothing short of this will work to "prove" it occurred.

So, where is the proof?

221 posted on 03/04/2017 8:56:15 AM PST by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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Time for Idi Amin Obama to go. He, Soros and Jarrett all need to be arrested and charged with sedition, subversion and treason as well as attempting to overthrow the elected U.S. Government. This is serious now.


231 posted on 03/04/2017 9:09:56 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it. - Clint Eastwood)
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Send Obama to jail! Lock him up!!!!


254 posted on 03/04/2017 9:41:18 AM PST by dragonblustar (I love reading Trump tweets in the morning.)
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All you folks on FR are so good at getting the story and backing it up with facts. Thanks!


265 posted on 03/04/2017 10:00:16 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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Impeach and hang the Traitorous bastard.


269 posted on 03/04/2017 10:26:50 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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Did he just call me a knucklehead? Image result for obama with headphones on
285 posted on 03/04/2017 11:01:26 AM PST by Leep (Cyclops Network News (CNN). The Most Trusted Source Of Fake News.)
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I’m sometimes not sure what is “real” and what is justifiable “paranoia”. I’m trying to keep a clear head, but I wish there was some evidence that this happened before tweeting about it for all the world to see, and for the libtards to joke about and call the President nutty and unstable. :/

I REALLY want him to concentrate on Making America Great by working on getting rid of illegals, lowering our taxes and repealing and NOT replacing obamacare.


287 posted on 03/04/2017 11:05:11 AM PST by luvie (Be still and know that I Am GOD.....Psalm 46:10)
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And Trump-Sessions & the Republicans will do Z E R O


288 posted on 03/04/2017 11:11:13 AM PST by heights
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Just crossed my mind, is it possible Trump already had a security system in place prior to Obama’s tap and knew Obama had bugged Trump Tower?

Is it possible Trump has every conversation tapped as well?

If Obie comes out with false wire taps and Trump has the original, and they don’t line up....what then...


295 posted on 03/04/2017 11:39:13 AM PST by Ms Mable
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I love how he makes bombshell accusations and Twitter, with no evidence, and no follow up for the entire day.

This makes the other side go into denial, and make excuses before Trump releases whatever evidence he has to discredit them.


305 posted on 03/04/2017 12:16:11 PM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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