Posted on 03/01/2017 10:30:46 AM PST by EveningStar
The focus should not be on anyone's race but more on the fact they are all American citizens and the freedoms we have, guaranteed by our Constitution. The rest will take care of itself, regardless of race.
You're a civic nationalist and a constitutionalist.
Both approaches are as unrealistic as Liberalism, Libertarianism, Communism, or even Conservatism.
Race matters. The rest won't take of itself regardless of race.
Imagine a nation with low taxes, no government regulations, strict religious traditions, drugs and prostitution are illegal, and no restrictions on firearms.
There is a place like that: the tribal areas of Pakistan and Somalia.
Now imagine a country with high taxes, a smothering government, strict gun laws, not very religious at all.
Think of Denmark.
Where would you rather live?
Race matters.
I don’t believe that at all. I’ve lived the life as a minority conservative and successful businessman. We’ve gone so far away from Americans understanding the value of freedom.
Getting our government back to the Constitution is the key and Americans coming back to understanding the value of freedom. That’s what made America so great in the first place unlike those other places you mention.
Like Trump said, we all come from the same God. It’s that same God where our rights come from. We get back to that and the opportunities that come from it and this nation can be great again, regardless of race.
CGato
Yea, I do. I understand that it’s unfortunate a bunch of adults run scared every time some wave of ‘outrage’ happens on Twitter instead of standing up to these losers or ignoring them. They’ve been given too much power when in reality they have little to none. First, lets address the fact most of the users are not from the USA. So...who cares what they think of Trump or our policies regarding our country.
Second, the user’s from our country are from a demo that doesn’t have the voting or economical power to make an impact on anything.
We’ve gone so far away from Americans understanding the value of freedom. Getting our government back to the Constitution is the key and Americans coming back to understanding the value of freedom.
I appreciate the sentiments and the inspirational thinking.
But they're empty words. Sentiments that have been proven to be magical thinking and unrealistic.
Do you think that a Pygmy in Africa, a Mongolian farmer, an Afghan goat herder, a Japanese computer tech can all immigrate to America and they are magically and instantly "American" ? Because.... Freedom? Because.... Constitution?
No, they won't be true blue Americans just because they happen to move here. That's the "Magic Dirt Theory."
But if you can find a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious, multi-cultural empire anywhere in history that didn't either:
1. Break up into smaller states
2. Descend into civil war, with ethnic cleansing
3. Collapse
....you will have found the only exception to the rule. (Hint: there are none)
Just look at the Balkans in the 90s or the genocide in Rwanda. This stuff always ALWAYS ends the same way.
What has been done to America is treachery almost beyond anything in history.
The 1965 Immigration Act sealed America's fate.
Yes I understand everything I've been saying is painful and hard to believe for most people. It's going to be a mess.
But history is on my side. The Conservatives will yell "What about Freedom?!" and "Get back to the Constitution!" and think everything will be OK.
Everything won't be OK, not with the demographics in the United States now.
Well you said the Republican party should just focus on Whites. That is so wrong and myself proves it. America is so much different than any other country in the history of the world and you fail to see that.
It’s because of our God-given freedoms and liberties based upon our Constitution. You fail to see the gift to mankind that it is and that’s really too bad. It is the answer to our problems to get back to the Constitution.
It’s too bad you fail to see how great this document is, that applies to all Americans, regardless of race. Divide and conquer the races is the leftist’s way, as well is the devil’s way, don’t fall in to their trap.
CGato
"Get back to the Constitution"
Very naive.
I written a lot about the Constitution on FR.
The naive and unrealistic Conservatives and Constitutionalists always want to trot out the Constitution as a magic cure for everything.
It's not. Far from it.
Please explain how to purge Islam from America without violating the First Amendment.
You can't. Conservatives always start talking about philosophy and the American Dream for Everybody! when they can't explain something or realize that their vision is outdated and irrelevant.
The Constitution has failed. Conservatism has failed.
Identity politics have arrived for white people. Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics have been playing identity politics, very aggressively and viciously, for decades. And I can't blame them. Who wouldn't want to advance the interests of their own group?
Most of the world plays identity politics. It's not unique.
You know I'm right. Just wait 10 years. If you think identity politics are bad now, just want a few years.
OMG, if you have no respect or understanding of our Constitution, then why are you here??? Continue with your leftist attitude of divide and conquer when it comes to race since you advocate in keeping focused on Whites in the Republican party. That is just sooo wrong on many levels.
Give me freedom and liberty and the opportunities that come with it and I will eventually succeed. It doesn’t matter what race I am. I consider myself American first, race or more heritage, comes somewhere after. I AM PROOF, YOU ARE WRONG!
It really is too bad you don’t understand how great our Constitution is and that it IS the answer to our problems.
CGato
OMG, if you have no respect or understanding of our Constitution, then why are you here???
I understand the Constitution just fine. The Constitution was written for a VERY SPECIFIC people. It was not written for the hundreds of thousands of Somalis in Minnesota, millions of Arab Muslim immigrants, or TENS OF MILLIONS of Hispanic invaders.
"Getting back to the Constitution" isn't going to change their minds. They don't give two sh*ts about the Constitution.
Continue with your leftist attitude of divide and conquer when it comes to race since you advocate in keeping focused on Whites in the Republican party.
Not Leftist. The Founding Fathers believed in a homogeneous country. They knew very well the consequences of heterogeneous empires. As for white people in the Republican party, there's nothing wrong with that. As I said earlier, Blacks and Hispanics have played absolutely VICIOUS identity politics for decades and have shown no interest in voting for conservative policies. The Republicans would be stupid to keep trying to pander to get perhaps 1% more of their votes.
Give me freedom and liberty and the opportunities that come with it and I will eventually succeed.
Again, go explain that soaring rhetoric to the Somalis in Minnesota and the Mexicans in southern California. This isn't about you. You've done well for yourself obviously and it's great your on the right team. I'm telling you about entire groups of people (nations) that have nothing in common all thrown together in the same place.
Diversity + Proximity = War.
It doesn’t matter what race I am. I consider myself American first, race or more heritage, comes somewhere after.
Wrong and wrong. As I said earlier, if anybody on planet Earth can come to America and instantly become as American as George Washington, then being American means nothing. The traditional American heritage and culture and people don't exist if anybody can magically become American.
There's no test to be an American. With the immigration we've had the past 50+ years, anybody can be an American. You don't have to speak the English language, you don't have to care at all about freedom or the Constitution, you can pray for the day that the black ISIS flag flies above the White House and still be an American. So under the Civic Nationalism theory, anybody can be an American because being an American means nothing.
If you moved to Japan, would you become Japanese? There are plenty of white people, blacks, and others living in Japan. Not many, though. Japan has extremely strict immigration. It's almost non-existent. And those people living in Japan are NOT Japanese. Just ask the Japanese people what they are. They'll tell you they're foreigners that live in Japan.
It really is too bad you don’t understand how great our Constitution is and that it IS the answer to our problems.
I understand it just fine. We are well past the point where invoking the Constitution will fix America's problems.
I've told you already, there are 3 outcomes to the evil that has been done to America:
1. Break up. (States will succeed) 2. War. 3. Collapse.
To borrow from the writing from one of my favorite bloggers:
"At this point, the only serious questions are a) where the lines will be drawn, b) the level of violence involved, and c) precisely whom is going to be permitted to remain where."
You're fixated on the Constitution. That's small potatoes compared to what's coming for America.
I'm not advocating it. I'm just forecasting based on history, science, and logic.
Do you have a Twitter account? I’d just like to know before we go to school. :)
What a whole bunch of nonsense. This site represents everything you are against so I ask again, why are you here???
I’m not wrong, I’m an American citizen first and foremost, my race or heritage comes after that. I understand the value of freedom and the Constitution we have that is supposed to protect those and the opportunities that come from that. It protects all, with opportunities for all, regardless of race.
Forget ALL those illegal invaders, they can and will be deported. I don’t know why you are so fixated on them and other people around the world to try to make your point.
We have a history of NOT being like the rest of the world. The sad thing is we’ve had the left in this country try to make us like the rest of the world in the last 50 to 100 years. They’ve undermined our Constitution to achieve this so the REASONABLE goal and fix, would be to get this country back to the Constitution.
It’s strange you don’t think you have these leftist tendencies because you prefer to divide and conquer us by race. You’d rather the Republican party focus just on White Americans. You are just so wrong on that point and I’ve pointed out time and again, I am a great example of that as well as the many other conservative minorities out there.
You just continue to hate our Constitution. It only shows you don’t belong on a good site like this. Yes, there is a lot to fix but I’m not going to focus on the negative like you are. We were just blessed with a leader of this country who gets it so that tells me this country has a chance. So take your negativity elsewhere!
Personally, I’m going to focus on the positive and help get our country back. The positive IS our God-given, freedom protecting, liberty protecting, CONSTITUTION.
CGato
Oh, and leftists hate our Constitution as well just like you do. That’s WHY we are in the mess we are in but it can be fixed, God willing.
The answer is the Constitution in which you and the left hate so much.
CGato
“I understand the Constitution just fine. The Constitution was written for a VERY SPECIFIC people. It was not written for the hundreds of thousands of Somalis in Minnesota, millions of Arab Muslim immigrants, or TENS OF MILLIONS of Hispanic invaders.”
You just proved you have no idea what you are talking about. It’s OK. They do not properly educate people today, so I don’t blame you.
The Constitution is not a piece of paper or a document. It is an idea and that idea is essentially that the Founders recognized that all human rights come from God, or the Creator. Whomever, but the idea is that we are born with certain inalienable rights. That includes Somalis, Hispanics, and whatever identity group you can cite.
To claim that the ideas embodied in the Constitution and more specifically in the Bill of Rights do not apply to all men and only apply to a very small slice of humanity reveals a lack of understanding about those ideas. They are universal.
Complete foolishness. The Constitution wasn’t written for the world.
What part of “All Men” don’t you understand?
What part of “All Men” don’t you understand?
What part of Arab Muslims, Somali savages, Hispanic invaders, and various other foreign barbaric people and their cultures not being compatible with Western Civilization don't you understand?
Keep whining and crying about the Constitution and cucking it up. You and your type will become irrelevant all the faster.
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