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Vlad to Bryanw92: ** “ Lincoln presided over a war that left 600,000 dead and 400,000 wounded over a period of 4 years.
He did almost nothing to avoid the conflict or bring it to an early end. “ **

Ah, no.
In early 1861, despite Lincoln’s promise that Confederates could not have war unless they themselves started it, and months before a single Confederate soldier was killed in battle with any Union force, and before any Union Army invaded a single Confederate state, Confederates were very busy provoking war by seizing Federal properties, threatening & firing on Union officials, then starting war at Fort Sumter, formally declaring war (May 6, 1861) and waging war in Union states.

For years Confederates could have ended Civil War at any time, on much better term than the Unconditional Surrender they received in April 1865, but Confederates insisted on fighting on and on until final, total defeat.

So they had only themselves to blame for the results.

I understand what you are saying but Lincoln was president and could have and should have sought ways to end the war short of a bloody victory for one side - push for a cease fire, peace talks, compromises on both sides, etc.

His object should have been to end the war with as few casualties as possible, not to seek total victory leading to destruction of the south.

Hell - we treated Japan and Germany better than the federal government treated the defeated south.

After all - the war was fought ostensibly to maintain the Union with only one president.
Consequently his stance was that he was still president of all the people.

But his every move was political and made to appease the north.

If he was acting on principal for the benefit of the entire nation instead of for political advantage he would not have declared only the slaves in the southern states free in his Emancipation Proclamation.

He would have declared all slaves free including those in the northern states and the border states.

But he didn’t.
And we know why - political expeediency

So he pursued the war against the south, killing Americans on both sides by the thousands, because southerners didn’t want to give up slavery. \

While at the same time he preserved the right of the other states to keep slaves for reasons that had nothing to do with morality.

I see that you do not believe in accurate history, nor do you believe the Constitution recognizes the right for states to secede. Prior to Lincoln, it was common knowledge that states had the right to secede. Lincoln usurped that right from the states, which is tyranny. Like I said, he was a tyrant. Good riddance.

Anyone who wishes to get embroiled in this discussion: I am not here to educate you. Get your own primary sources and read the truth for yourself.

Let us not allow ourselves to be used by progressive trolls wishing to divide us with this topic. Our nation’s current condition is far too precarious to permit anyone to agitate, troll, or by any other means, divide. We have a nation to save. Our common ground needs to unite us, not divide us. If you want to play the Jesse Jackson, Black Lives Matter game, you’re in the wrong forum.