HandyDandy “Man”, you wrote, “While you’re working on that allow me to use this interlude to make it perfectly clear to you that your allegation of my “intense hatred for American Military War Veterans?” is extremely insulting for many reasons that are none of your business. Please apologize.”
Apologize for what? By honoring the tyrant Lincoln, you dishonor the hundreds of thousands of American War Veterans who were casualties for both the South and the North. It was Lincoln’s war, not America’s War.
If Lincoln was truly concerned about keeping the Union together — that would be assuming he did not have a stake in the game — he would have done something to alleviate the fears of the Southern states regarding the new, oppressive tariff. Rather he strongly supported the tariff, and specifically threatened, in his inaugural address, to use military force to ensure the tariff was collected. Not unsurprisingly, the South carried as much as 80% of the tariff burden.
So, in a nutshell, Lincoln promised to make tax slaves out of the South, and to invade if they resisted. They resisted, and he invaded. You probably thought it had something to do with Fort Sumter, right? Actually, it did. Fort Sumter was a tariff collection site.
Of course, Lincoln probably would not have won the election without his support of the tariff. Slavery was not an issue.
Total rubbish. Of course it was "America's War", strongly supported by average citizens North and South.
And by "South" I mean the Unionist South in states like Delaware, Maryland, Western Virginia, Eastern Tennessee, Northern Arkansas, Kentucky and Missouri.
Those states provided hundreds of thousands of volunteers to the Union cause.
None of that would have happened if the Deep South Slave Power had been seen nationwide as the "champions of liberty" you Lost Causers now fantasize them to be.
Right-wing Librarian to HandyDandy: "If Lincoln was truly concerned about keeping the Union together — that would be assuming he did not have a stake in the game — he would have done something to alleviate the fears of the Southern states regarding the new, oppressive tariff.
Rather he strongly supported the tariff... "
None of the first "Reasons for Secession" documents produced by Deep South states even mentioned the Morrill Tariff as a reason for their declarations, because it wasn't.
Their real reasons were totally, clearly stated & obvious to all: they believed "Ape" Lincoln's "Black Republicans" represented a potential future threat to slavery, and so they declared their secessions "at pleasure".
Congratulations for posting the dumbest, most anti-American post I’ve ever seen at FReerepublic. You really need to be somewhere else.
How do you figure?
Every Memorial Day, for as long as I have been aware, the following is spoken by a local high school student, who has memorized it, at the local cemetery commemoration. Let me know what words of Obama you would like to replace them with:
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
Abraham Lincoln,
November 19, 1863