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A student was punished for filming professor’s anti-Trump rant. Then came the backlash.
Washington Post ^ | February 25, 2017 | Avi Selk and Peter Holley

Posted on 02/26/2017 8:23:23 AM PST by Leaning Right

When suspending Caleb O’Neil for recording his professor’s rant against then-President-elect Donald Trump, the dean of Orange Coast College said that the punishment should make the student “truly think through your actions and the consequences of those actions.”

But it was the college that rethought its actions — after two weeks of intense criticism that the California school was stifling a conservative student to protect a liberal professor.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: filming; professor; winning
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To: Leaning Right
After weeks of threatening emails and voice mails about the video — calling her a “Marxist,” “nut case” and “vile leftist filth” — she became frightened herself.

So classic: a deft switch of victimhood and the fascist resumes her moral high ground. Not even a nice try.

Recording lectures has become a commonplace, not for political reasons but for study reasons. Not all college codes of conduct have moved with the times, nor have all professors. I have a very good friend, now retired, a Classics professor, who was recorded asking, "Why are you all pointing your cell phones at me?" There was...giggling...

41 posted on 02/26/2017 10:47:11 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Do the math
I always encourage my students to record my lectures,I have nothing to hide. Most of my students don’t take notes, they snap pictures of the blackboard with their phones while I’m teaching.

Sound good. Just what any sensible person would expect, and just what I'd be doing if I were in college these days.

There are some real ulterior motives involved with any administration or professor who wants to ban recording devices, and the motives don't have anything to do with what will most help the students learn

42 posted on 02/26/2017 11:02:08 AM PST by Will88
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To: philetus

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43 posted on 02/26/2017 11:26:21 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: Telepathic Intruder

can you imagine how long a teacher would have lasted who did nothing but criticize obama?


44 posted on 02/26/2017 11:27:35 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Leaning Right

Psychology teacher

Most are basically mental cases


46 posted on 02/26/2017 11:30:52 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Billthedrill

Liberal College Professors always remind me this;

“Too Old to Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young to Die!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8uUh1xsL14


47 posted on 02/26/2017 11:34:52 AM PST by Zeneta
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To: uncbob

$160,000 a year to teach this garbage


48 posted on 02/26/2017 11:39:34 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Will88

I did read something about this incident where they said the school doesn’t want the professor recorded because they don’t want people to pass it on to other students who are too lazy to attend the class.


49 posted on 02/26/2017 12:32:03 PM PST by jocon307
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To: SoCal Pubbie

The statute requiring permission from all parties before a recording can be made applies only to statements made in private. A teacher’s statements to a college class is not private in the sense that say, a conversation between a husband and wife alone at home is usually considered private and protected against such recording.


50 posted on 02/26/2017 12:37:06 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

I’m sure you’re right. In any event, I’ve never seen anything official that this student’s actions were a violation of any kind of rule or law.


51 posted on 02/26/2017 12:46:31 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: BwanaNdege
Pretty much the same thing happened to me.
I was given a tank of what I was told was compressed AIR, I had to use it on an asbestos abatement job in a small boiler room.
I had completely taped off the boiler room to prevent contamination of the outside air and got to the point of having to use the “compressed air” to blow out some areas that couldn't be reached by hand.
Started getting tired and labored breathing, first thought I was just getting to old to do this crap anymore, then realized I was not getting enough oxygen.
Ripped the tape lines off the door and figured f#ck contaminating the outside air, I ain't going to die in this damn boiler room.
It was Saturday morning so I knew there wouldn't be any people around to expose to airborne asbestos fiber.
Monday morning I had a long discussion with HVAC shop foreman about cylinder identification and contents.
His excuse was it was an older cylinder and he didn't know what was in it, not good enough.
I ordered him to dispose of all unidentified cylinders and and replace them with cylinders that were clearly marked.
52 posted on 02/26/2017 12:49:59 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: jocon307

That dog don’t hunt; the profs are supposed to take a roll in each class, participation is supposed to be part of the grade.


53 posted on 02/26/2017 1:05:02 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: wrcase

lets face it...most professors are blowhards and are crappy teachers and don’t want the public to know just what they are getting for their money....


54 posted on 02/26/2017 1:06:32 PM PST by cherry (<_)
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To: Do the math
<[p>, they snap pictures of the blackboard with their phones while I’m teaching

When I was teaching in Turkey, I used Powerpoint slides. The custom was that the professor's notes (or in my case the slides) would be taken to a print shop by one of the students. Other students could they buy copies of the notes or slides. This was because textbooks were so expensive. Most were imported. It worked out well for me and my students.

55 posted on 02/26/2017 2:57:07 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: Leaning Right
This sounds like a job for FIRE (link)!!!
56 posted on 02/26/2017 3:46:57 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: SoCal Pubbie
In Florida, which has a similar law, the issue has been raised from time to time and always with the result that prosecutors cleared the supposed offender so long as the recording was of a public event. The first time was decades ago when a liberal Democrat Congressman said foolish things before a group of high school students. A sometime contributor to the student newspaper who was there recorded the session and, catching up with the Congressman on the way out, asked him to explain his remarks.

The Congressman -- who had long been in office and was not aging well -- then realized that he had been recorded and was in political peril because of his comments. So he tried to grab the student's recorder, and to make him give it up, began to choke him. As the kid squirmed and resisted, a teacher intervened and the issue was referred to the principal. Under threat, the student held firm and, on the advice of his father, insisted on a ruling by the local prosecutor.

Initially, a staff lawyer in the prosecutor's office made noises to the effect that the kid was in big trouble and should give the audio tape to the Congressman before an official inquiry was launched. Fortunately, the kid's parents lawyered up and the local paper -- a major daily -- learned of the incident. The elected prosecutor himself swiftly ruled that the kid had done nothing wrong because the recording had been made at a public event.

The Congressman and the school authorities of course had behaved badly and swiftly retreated into self protective versions and explanations of the episode. If something like it happened today, the kid would be on Fox News the next day and the Congressman and the school would be sweating out bad publicity and the risk of a lawsuit.

57 posted on 02/26/2017 3:53:35 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: smileyface

FAKE COMMENTS

Software robots edit & purge comments.

Comments are meaningless trash, unless the website can prove untampered comments by legal certification under penalty of jail. Is that in the fine print?


58 posted on 02/26/2017 4:34:18 PM PST by TheNext ("PULL THEIR BROADCAST LICENSE!" - Trump Rally Cry. eg ABC)
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To: Leaning Right

Wondering what this putz of a perfesser would be doing if he wasn’t teaching college. Would be fun to find out.


59 posted on 02/26/2017 9:48:55 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: All

Again we see the root of the problem: The Institution is more concerned about its employees than its students....Same with all Teachers Unions, to hell with the students, it’s about US....


60 posted on 02/27/2017 6:08:02 AM PST by Maverick68
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