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To: allendale
You know what. You have not the slightest clue about Iran and the threat it poses to us, the United States of America. I was in Iran in 1979 when the Shah was overthrown and Khomeini took power. I was in our embassy when it was overrun the first time on February 14, 1979 and lived on an occupied compound for almost two months.

I also was in Saudi Arabia during the entire Gulf War from start to finish. There is no way our allies in the region can deal with Iran alone. They need our support and we have global strategic interests at stake. The Gulf region is the world's largest supplier of exportable oil, which fuels the global economy.

Militant Islamic fundamentalism began in Iran in 1979. It is spreading like a cancer around the world. The only way it can be stopped entirely is regime change in Iran. There is no negotiating with the mullahs and their Supreme Leader. Obama's deal with Iran supported by signatories like Russia, China, and the UK ensures that Iran will get nuclear weapons.

36 posted on 02/22/2017 7:21:54 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Try to analyze the situation in todays political realities and not those of the recent past. The US due to new technologies is self sufficient in oil. Even if it were not, oil exporters are desperate for hard currency and will sell to anyone with the means to pay for it. Otherwise their economies collapse and they experience severe political instability. That includes Iran . Can you imagine them closing the Persian Gulf and telling China that there will be no more exports of oil or the price will thanks to them skyrocket? If they ever tried to close the Gulf it would mark the beginning of the end of the bizarre mullah regime. Yet let it be the world and those with the greatest vested interests to shed blood and treasure. Over the last sixty years American involvement in the region has been costly in human and material resources, has spawned numerous unnecessary intractable enemies, has not enhanced the security of the American people and has been a futile exercise. There will never again be a 1974 type oil embargo. Even our bitterest enemies such as Venezuela beat a path to our doors to sell their oil for the hard currency they desperately need. Iran, like most of the predominantly Muslim countries will eventually collapse and transform. Islamic culture is simply not compatible with the values ,institutions and practices of the modern world that the vast majority of rational people covet. It is the reason most of the Mideast is chaotically violent or inherently unstable. It is also why people are voting with their feet and seeking solace in the lands formerly known as Christendom. Try to comprehend the real situation and be a bit more judicious before you advocate the US being involved in yet more foreign entanglements and quagmires. Reflect carefully on what has happened over the last ten years.


42 posted on 02/22/2017 7:45:59 AM PST by allendale
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To: kabar
I was in the 82d Abn Div HQ, having just left an infantry battalion, when this happened.

Iran has continue to issue attach/death threats against diplomatic missions/personnel, US Business interests/employees, and US Nationals abroad. They have used their embassy in Lebannon for terrorism and holding captives and they sent teams of Iranian Guards/Hezbolla/Hamas into S.America to do pre-planning on US diplomatic missions for future war. If Iran is attacked they will strike US assets, but our diplomats will be on the front lines of attack (I know a couple who deserve Iranian attention) but having reitred from both the Army and State, I assure you I took seriously the public statements since 1979 from Iran that they will attack diplomatic missions. I served with two people who were in twin Embassy bombings in Africa; one guy was in Beruit when the USMC barracks was attacked.

43 posted on 02/22/2017 7:47:15 AM PST by Jumper
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To: kabar

The Saudi’s need us to keep their oil flowing yet continue to fund radical West hating Wahhabi version of islam. It’s time for the house of Saudi to make some changes if they want our help. Fracking has ended their reign of economic terror on the US. They need us way more than we need them.


57 posted on 02/22/2017 11:51:50 AM PST by sarge83
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