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Why Professors Object to Being Recorded
Townhall.com ^ | February 21, 2017 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 02/21/2017 4:19:07 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: thulldud

Can’t say for Mike, but, his Dad was a Dean at my college and helped me get through some tough scheduling to get my degree.

Mike seems a good straight up guy, and, if he is anything like his dad, he is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Adams_%28columnist%29


41 posted on 02/21/2017 9:15:27 AM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: Wonder Warthog
IMO, every classroom in a tax-funded institution should be equipped with two cameras, one in the rear of the room focused on the teacher's area, and one in the front of the room focused on the class area. Both should be networked and access available over the interned, either to the general public, or by password to parents of students, and education supervisors.
This would quickly cut down on this sort of liberal crap, AND improve student discipline.


I have proposed this for several years. The NEA and other teachers unions will fight it like crazy. It should be promoted by the state legislatures that are currently controlled by Republicans as a way to improve student performance, while it can also disprove any false allegations of inappropriate touching by high school or elementary school teachers. That, in turn, could perhaps lower insurance costs. Taping could also prevent real child abuse by teachers, and bullying and disruptions by students. Videotapes should be retained for at least two weeks. If teachers and students knew that all classroom lectures and behavior were being recorded, it would make for a much better learning environment.
42 posted on 02/21/2017 10:05:49 AM PST by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

Absolutely. Every “professor” news to be TAPED so that parents know what ideas these people are injecting into their children. If they try to glorify evil, vile behaviors or evil, slave ideologies like socialism and Marxism, it should be taped. If they are using psychological warfare on the minds of our children, it will be evident-—shaming and isolating children in the “group” peer-pressured environment that this evil Prussian system is designed to actually destroy moral formation and agency.

And then, it should be easy to fire anyone who promotes lies and disinformation (which is all of Marxism where Slavery if Freedom and Boys are Girls). All Marxist programming into irrationality has to be removed from US schools and only Classical Christian curricula-—that based on Reason and Logic (Natural Law (science) is allowed. All other “ideologies are irrational and programming into idiocy (non-critical “thinking”).


43 posted on 02/21/2017 10:23:26 AM PST by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: savagesusie

If Trump’s Dept. of Education can’t force publicly-funded schools to record all classroom lectures, then the states controlled by Republican legislatures and Governors ought to require all schools receiving public monies to record all classes and have the tapes available for two weeks, for the following reasons:
1. keep teachers doing their job. Not talk about things (ie. politics) that aren’t part of class subject matter
2. prevent elementary, middle & high school teachers from doing inappropriate touching
3. prevent teachers from being falsely accused of inappropriate touching or inappropriate teaching
4. document student bullying and disruptions, so it’s easier to suspend or expel disruptors
5. create a better learning environment since disruptive students know they’re being recorded
6. students can review class lectures to improve their learning and grades
5. perhaps lower insurance costs because of fewer false/frivolous lawsuits against teachers

If regular public schools still can’t be forced to adopt policies that require recording of all classroom lectures, then charter schools and private schools should lead the way.

Private schools should also provide internet access to parents of their students, so that parents can watch the classroom lectures, via the internet, at any time. This could become a marketing point for those individual schools that will be reassuring to the parents.


44 posted on 02/21/2017 11:35:44 AM PST by DeweyCA
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To: generally

Any good teacher or proffesor welcomes recordings so that students can listen to the lecture and learn—only Fake Professors who do not teach and spout off propaganda fear exposure. ALL Classrooms should be monitored all the time—and every lecture monitored for a neutral stand. The class room is no place for Propaganda as teaching! The classroom is for thought not opinion.


45 posted on 02/21/2017 11:44:06 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: originalbuckeye
Point two: GET RID OF TENURE!

I agree except for one thing: No tenure encourages the firing of long employed, higher paid teachers to be replaced by lower paid new teachers. Cuts 'em loose a little short of retirement. Saves money for the system and may (or may not) affect the quality of education for the students. Unfair and unacceptable.

46 posted on 02/21/2017 2:25:46 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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‘Encourages the firing of long employed, higher paid teachers in favor of lower paid teachers’

You mean like in every other job in the country? Name me a job where there is a guarantee that you will be able to stay until retirement. I retired early a couple of years ago because the younger manager made the ‘elders’ life miserable. Management loved her. It was worth it to lower my blood pressure and take a lesser SS payment. I paid in for 40+ years and will not get out of SS all that I put in. But hey, at least I likely lengthened my lifespan, not having to deal with that B**** anymore.


47 posted on 02/21/2017 2:44:32 PM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: DeweyCA
"I have proposed this for several years. The NEA and other teachers unions will fight it like crazy."

I think this will happen. It is just a matter of how quickly. But it is also inevitable that the "factory school environment" will disappear. There is absolutely no reason that the knowledge base of any and every subject cannot be taught over the internet. The physical school will evolve into the place where one goes to get hands-on practice (labs, shops, etc). You can see the beginnings of this with the "makerlab" movement.

48 posted on 02/21/2017 4:36:01 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Kaslin

Record them all, post the recordings anonymously.


49 posted on 02/21/2017 10:08:15 PM PST by Impy (End the kritarchy!)
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To: originalbuckeye
There is a difference between firing and choosing to leave for personal reasons. Did the work you performed have a company-paid pension plan? That's a reason to be less concerned with SS. Or perhaps you are fully vested, just awaiting the age at which you can collect.

I might have done the same as you under similar circumstances and similar employment. But I work on commissions with no guaranteed income except my SS and occasional paid valuation jobs. Who do you know thinking of selling or buying a home, anywhere in the world? My referral service is top-notch, and my local (coastal central NJ) service as well!

8^)

50 posted on 02/22/2017 7:51:01 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Conan the Librarian
We all know what tenure is "supposed" to do, but what it actually does these days:— well, that's different. In one column where the subject came up, Professor Mike cited the case of a "colleague" of his at UNCW. Upon receiving tenure, this individual, whom Mike did not name, and whose office was down the hall from his, apparently disappeared from campus. Non-attendance? No way! Can't be fired for any reason...who wouldn't like a job like that?

Tough for the students that are paying for it, but, maybe, in such cases they're better off.

Btw, if you're really a librarian, with a name like that, I'm making *real* sure not to have an overdue book! (/me nervously checks nightstand)

51 posted on 02/22/2017 7:51:27 AM PST by thulldud
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To: JimRed
No, no and no. I had no pension ever from any job. I was told be other supervisors that she was trying to get in a younger workforce. Period. The first guy left before me and I was the second. Since then 10 techs, mostly older, left because of her ‘management style’. And upper management loved her as she ‘rode herd’ on ALL the people under her (and the younger ones didn't have the experience to realize this was wrong). I had had enough. And my blood pressure thanks me for leaving. No, I would have done much better financially, if I had stayed. So, I do not have a lot of empathy when people think bad teachers should be able to stay, on the off chance that a handful of Conservative teachers might be able to stay. Conservatives aren't usually hired in the first place. And my manager was a big Lib.....you know, one of those oh so tolerant people who think they are a gift to everyone around them? I didn't talk politics in the lab, but I'm sure people were aware of where my allegiance was.
52 posted on 02/22/2017 8:23:49 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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