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1 posted on 02/19/2017 8:42:54 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Absolutely

Start yelling LOUD and CLEAR

CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS > statutory “rights”

People absolutely have the right to not do business with those they disagree with and those that seek to destroy them. Creeps in women’s underwear have NO legitimate rights, and certainly NO rights to harass, abuse, peple of faith, women, or children.


2 posted on 02/19/2017 8:46:16 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW BOYCOTT Mexico NFL PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: Kaslin

A government that does so is not legitimate.

Are we at that point yet here in the USA?


3 posted on 02/19/2017 8:49:23 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Kaslin

The focus has been so strongly on “rights of the minority” for so long that we’ve let them violate the rights of the majority. Does anyone understand the meaning of “balance”? No one has the right to force someone else what to do. And no one has the obligation to do what someone else wants. It’s so simple that no one understands it.


4 posted on 02/19/2017 8:51:29 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Kaslin

Outrage can take many forms. The most critical in these cases is a concerted, unyielding campaign to remove this judge from the bench for grievous, unconstitutional decisions.
IMPEACH!! And make it stick.
This imperious Marxist ideology must not be allowed to continue to corrupt the judiciary.


5 posted on 02/19/2017 8:52:20 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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To: Kaslin

6 posted on 02/19/2017 8:52:54 AM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Kaslin
Why? We don't allow Muslims to rape and behead. /S

ML/NJ

7 posted on 02/19/2017 8:53:44 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Kaslin
Why then are Christian bakers and florists and photographers required to provide their services for gay weddings under penalty of law?

It's a tacit, if not subconscious, acknowledgement that there's power in the name of Jesus.

8 posted on 02/19/2017 8:56:34 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin

We are getting closer to a revolt with Supreme Court decisions like this one in Washington. It is totally ridiculous for the court to try to force one florist to provide this service when many others would be glad to.


11 posted on 02/19/2017 9:11:01 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (EEe)
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To: Kaslin

A few leftist states felt emboldened to go after Christians who refuse to service homosexuals on religious grounds because Obama was treating it as a civil right violation by the Christians. Trump needs to turn this around and go after states for violating the civil rights of Christians.


13 posted on 02/19/2017 9:16:41 AM PST by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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To: Kaslin

This is a case where one right - the right to be served regardless of sexual orientation - conflicts with another right - the right to practice your religion as your conscience dictates. One cannot be defended without the other being denied. And that isn’t going to change. My suggestion is to repeal all these anti-discrimination laws, require businesses to display a sign stating who they will serve and who they will not, and let the marketplace work its will. No confusion. No embarrassment. No grounds to sue.


15 posted on 02/19/2017 9:48:56 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin
"Almighty God hath created the mind free, and manifested His supreme will that free it shall remain by making it altogether insusceptible of restraint. [* * *] All attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion, who, being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do, but to exalt it by its influence on reason alone." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: Statute of Religious Freedom. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 454. EDITION: Ford ed., ii, 237. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1779

"I sincerely rejoice at the acceptance of our new Constitution by nine States. It is a good canvas, on which some strokes only want retouching. What these are, I think are sufficiently manifested by the general voice from north to south, which calls for a bill of rights. It seems pretty generally understood that this should go to [* * *] religion. [* * *] The declaration, that religious faith shall be unpunished, does not give impunity to criminal acts, dictated by religious error." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: To James Madison. EDITION: Washington ed. ii, 445. EDITION: Ford ed., v, 45. PLACE: Paris DATE: July. 1788

"One of the amendments to the Constitution [* * *] expressly declares, that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press"; thereby guarding in the same sentence, and under the same words, the freedom of religion, of speech and of the press; insomuch, that whatever violates either, throws down the sanctuary which covers the others." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: Kentucky Resolutions. EDITION: Washington ed. ix, 466. EDITION: Ford ed., vii, 295. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1798

"I am for freedom of religion, and against all manuvres to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: To Elbridge Gerry. EDITION: Washington ed. iv, 268. EDITION: Ford ed., vii, 328. PLACE: Philadelphia, DATE: 1799

"Freedom of religion I deem [one of the] essential principles of our government and, consequently, [one] which ought to shape its administration." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: First Inaugural Address. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 4. EDITION: Ford ed., viii, 5. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1801

"Among the most inestimable of our blessings is that [* * *] of liberty to worship our Creator in the way we think most agreeable to His will; a liberty deemed in other countries incompatible with good government and yet proved by our experience to be its best support." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: R. to A. of Baptists. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 119. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1807

"We have solved [* * *] the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government, and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason, and the serious convictions of his own inquiries." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: R. to A. Virginia Baptists. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 139. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1808

"Having ever been an advocate for the freedom of religious opinion and exercise, from no person, certainly, was an abridgment of these sacred rights to be apprehended less than from myself." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: R. to A. Pittsburg Methodists. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 142. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1808

"The Constitution has not placed our religious rights under the power of any public functionary." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: R. to A. Pittsburg Methodists. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 142. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1808

"There are certain principles in which the constitutions of our several States all agree, and which all cherish as vitally essential to the protection of the life, liberty, property and safety of the citizen. [One is] Freedom of Religion, restricted only from acts of trespass on that of others." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: To M. Coray. EDITION: Washington ed. vii, 323. PLACE: Monticello DATE: 1823 See Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom, in Appendix.

"Whatsoever is lawful in the Commonwealth, or permitted to the subject in the ordinary way, cannot be forbidden to him for religious uses; and whatsoever is prejudicial to the Commonwealth in their ordinary uses and, therefore, prohibited by the laws ought not to be permitted to churches in their sacred rites. For instance, it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things, or in a private house, to murder a child. It should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children: it is ordinarily lawful (or temporarily lawful) to kill calves or lambs. They may, therefore, be religiously sacrificed, but if the good of the State required a temporary suspension of killing lambs, as during a siege, sacrifices of them may then be rightfully suspended also. This is the true extent of toleration." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: Notes on Religion. EDITION: Ford ed., ii, 102. PLACE: [none given] 1776?


21 posted on 02/19/2017 10:17:44 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Kaslin

We don’t have any of the Muzzie scum in our area just yet but if we ever do, I will find a way to hire some of them or a business to clean my pig pen or cook my barbeque or butcher a hog and see where that goes.


22 posted on 02/19/2017 10:47:52 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Kaslin; Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...
Here is how she responded after hearing the court's ruling.


You don’t really understand me or what this conflict is all about. It’s about freedom, not money. I certainly don’t relish the idea of losing my business, my home, and everything else that your lawsuit threatens to take from my family, but my freedom to honor God in doing what I do best is more important. Washington’s constitution guarantees us “freedom of conscience in all matters of religious sentiment.” I cannot sell that precious freedom. You are asking me to walk in the way of a well-known betrayer, one who sold something of infinite worth for 30 pieces of silver. That is something I will not do.

I pray that you reconsider your position. I kindly served Rob [the 'gay' plaintiff] for nearly a decade and would gladly continue to do so. I truly want the best for my friend. I’ve also employed and served many members of the LGBT community, and I will continue to do so regardless of what happens with this case. You chose to attack my faith and pursue this not simply as a matter of law, but to threaten my very means of working, eating, and having a home. If you are serious about clarifying the law, then I urge you to drop your claims against my home, business, and other assets and pursue the legal claims through the appeal process.


Catholic ping!

24 posted on 02/20/2017 11:37:35 AM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: Kaslin

bump


29 posted on 02/25/2017 2:01:32 AM PST by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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