How about totally off FR?
And in addition, the toxic threads where Protestants and Catholics bash each other are sickening. And wicked.
Completely toxic and detrimental to conservatism. Conservative leaning people shouldn't be tearing each other apart over religious minutia.
Completely toxic and detrimental to conservatism. Conservative leaning people shouldn't be tearing each other apart over religious minutia.
Should we just completely ignore the "minutiae", and just be happy with the kind of fuzzy, non-denominational, theologically ignorant religion that liberals love? Make Christianity Stupid Again?
I've been here since 1998 and we've had plenty of knock-down-dragouts as well as fantastic discussions where both sides had to hone and refine their arguments. I've learned an immense amount. I've enjoyed ragging on Calvinists on one thread and then tag-teaming with them against the anti-Creedalists on others. I'd argue with the Eastern Orthodox on misunderstanding the filioque then happily call them in whenever somebody claimed to know Greek better than the Greeks. I've had to figure out what a Noahide is and then how to answer his objections against everyone else. I've had it out with a range of my own fellow Catholics--sedevacantists, SSPX folks, Novus Ordo types. I dearly miss the great old traditional Anglican posters that alerted me to what was going on the Episcopal Church in the leadup to the formation of the Ordinariate.
We are discussing ideas....and since politics is downstream of culture, most of us understand that what happens in the religious world will eventually affect what happens everywhere.
Jim--God bless him--has given us a forum here to hash those issues out--better by leaps and bounds than any forum out there. He has always stepped in when things got out of hand, but he has always allocated us the space to have our arguments.
Best to just stay out of the theology threads if you have the attitude that the arguments are "sickening" and "toxic". Many of us who frequent the Religion Forum don't share it, and it doesn't seem Jim does either.
You mean a forum which officially is "For God, Family, Country, Life and Liberty!!" "pro-God, pro-life, pro-family..." "dedicated to defending our GOD-GIVEN rights," which aggressively defends our "God-given and first amendment guaranteed rights to free speech, free press, free religion,..."and opposed to such things as "government enforced atheism" should act like atheists and have no religion Forum?
Perhaps you are on the wrong forum. Whether you like it or not, without Religion and Christianity you have no America, and and the progressive rejection of it results the progressive moral anarchy seen today.
And in addition, the toxic threads where Protestants and Catholics bash each other are sickening. Both are conservative and seek the welfare of America, though many RCs hope for a RC monarchy, and while the contentions are sickening to you healthy debate must be allowed, for Truth is life.
Many Founders recognized the dangers of unfettered Romanism, as well as post-Biblical theocracies as well,but clearly expressed and supported general religious faith, esp. Christian. And the nation's law reflected the beliefs of the Founder and the people, who elect those who interpret them. Therefore, when the electors forsake the word of God and choose delusions after their own lusts, and make silver and gold their ultimate security/gods, then they are seduced by and elect godless and immoral men, as seen in modern history.
And wicked.
Which presupposes an authorative standard for what is Good versus Evil. What is yours?
And as a Freemason, I could do without being told I'm an evil heretic that's destined for eternal damnation.
This really isn't the place for religious debate and proselytizing, except to discuss religion in the context of political persecution.
Romans 2:24
As it is written: “God’s name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”
“the toxic threads where Protestants and Catholics bash each other are sickening. And wicked.”
But they’re bloodless in contrast to most of Western history.