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A Civil War For Control Of The US Government Has Erupted Between "The Deep State" And Donald Trump
Zero Hedge ^ | Feb 16, 2017 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/16/2017 11:02:39 PM PST by Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

The ruthless political assassination of Michael Flynn was just one battle of a major civil war that has erupted for control of the U.S. government. Donald Trump and his new administration are now under relentless assault by “the deep state”, and at this point it is not clear who will emerge as the victor. There are many that use the term “deep state” as a synonym for the intelligence community, but the truth is that it is much broader than that. In reality, the deep state encompasses thousands upon thousands of unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats that never seem to change no matter which party wins an election. Certainly the intelligence community is at the heart of this system, but there are countless others that are embedded within key government agencies and the Pentagon that deeply resent Donald Trump and the kind of change that he is attempting to bring to Washington.

There is a vast and exceedingly complex tapestry of laws, rules and regulations that govern the behavior of government officials. In past administrations, those laws, rules and regulations have been very selectively enforced, but now the “deep state” intends to use them as weapons against the Trump administration.

In essence, Donald Trump and his team are walking through a minefield, and his enemies are watching like a hawk for even the smallest slip up.

Theoretically, everyone working for the federal government is now working for Donald Trump. But in reality that is not the case. I wrote about the sabotage that is being done by Obama loyalists a few days ago, and it isn’t going to stop until Donald Trump does a complete housecleaning.....

...Can you see why I am describing this conflict as a “civil war”? To me, this is definitely treason…

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cia; deepstate; flynn; insurrection; nsa; sedition; shadowgovernment; trump
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

This is why the staff of the EPA is going to be cut in half maybe more. Look for that in many other agencies also.


61 posted on 02/17/2017 6:21:52 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

I heard a report, not substantiated, that Flynn’s naming names re: the DC pedophilia scandal that included Pence’s “best friend” (completely unfounded, but my immediate thought was...Jeff Flake?) was really why Pence wanted him gone. Again, no corroboration at all, and no names named in this report.


62 posted on 02/17/2017 6:23:47 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: laplata

If he resigns because of that, And I can see where a President might, then a violent civil war will become necessary to preserve the USA as a Constitutional Republic. Or what we have left of it.


63 posted on 02/17/2017 7:50:20 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch
For what its worth, my Senator is Ron Wyden. He is the Senator that asked Clapper if he was spying on American citizens and Clapper lied to him and then said yes, we are.

So I figured since I am one of his constituents I would write him right away with my concerns with the NSA and their listening to everyone. I told him I would expect the IC to be listening to the Russian Ambassador, but then to release that conversation with a private American citizen to the press was bordering on sedition. Just letting him know I am watching.

64 posted on 02/17/2017 7:55:31 AM PST by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: exnavy
With power comes the desire to do that which titilates.

So very true. They are at the pinnacle of power and wealth and still find them selves unhappy, so they push toward evil and deviancy more and more. First adultery, then bi sexual, then homosexual, then pedophile, then deception and murder are in order.

It is spiritual warfare, always has been. They hate us because, they hated HIM, they don't even know why. They have set themselves up as gods, the elite are the ones working on scientific research for eternal life. ..."ever searching and never coming to the knowledge of the truth."

65 posted on 02/17/2017 8:05:17 AM PST by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: thirst4truth

Clapper a Muslim Brotherhood double agent....no wonder he came up with the disinformation about Flynn.

.....the globalist have been working fora few years to engineer WWIII with Russia

....Flynn has been working to expose pediphile rings within the US Intel community


66 posted on 02/17/2017 8:22:22 AM PST by Trump_vs_Evil_Witch (career libs @ BIG BROTHER Inc.,..... President Trump says your fired!d)
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To: Quickgun

I think I spoke too negatively. I see Trump fighting them and exposing him if he can insure his security and surround himself with good Patriots. There is no doubt that the Shadow Government has hindered presidents since JFK.

You are right about a Civil War. God forbid that something happen to DJT.


67 posted on 02/17/2017 8:40:20 AM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: ifinnegan
You can be hysterical if you want.

I am not now nor have I ever been hysterical but I certainly don't ignore clear evidence and belittle those that try to inform me of those suspect things. Optimism is a great thing but calling those that see the fallacy of your optimism, tinfoil nuts, hardly advances the debate.

Very few people actually recognize there really is a world wide cabal that controls money, and by proxy the governments that accept that money. Their goal now and always has been, World Government. How close that is to becoming a reality is open for debate, but what is not open for debate is the clear and steady advance of their program to finally meet their ultimate goal.

Cashless society is one of those enabling parts that will morph into absolute control, health care was another program to improve control, not health care. If Health Care actually did improve then, Bonus, but that was never the real goal.

68 posted on 02/17/2017 8:54:33 AM PST by itsahoot (Return the power to the people, and Mexico will pay for the wall, 100%)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch
... unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats ...

Must be rooted out and replaced. If they're civil service protected, transfer them to places where they can not cause harm. Or bait them into misbehavior and terminate them.

69 posted on 02/17/2017 10:00:47 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: HLPhat; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; GOPJ
Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Origins and SignificanceSpeech

That video gives a very incomplete explanation of Eisenhower's farewell address 1961. The "Military-Industrial Complex," as Ike explained, is only a part of the problem. We must also include the bureaucrats, lobbyists, and the "elite" establishment, including academia and the media.

Here is the part of the speech that they conveniently omit:

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present -- and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

I think Ike did not mention the corrupt congress because he didn't want to pick a fight, but that would have been consistent.

70 posted on 02/17/2017 10:45:17 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Why isn't anybody talking about Visa entry-exit tracking?)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

“Clapper ... came up with the disinformation about Flynn.”

The Flynn affair had the unmistakable stench of James Clapper from the outset. Brian Kilmeade had a guest on this morning (a retired Lt. Col. in defense intelligence who knew Clapper from his days at DIA) who called Clapper an idiot and said he would say it to Clapper’s face.


71 posted on 02/17/2017 10:46:21 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: nikos1121

He was a bad pick in my opinion anyway. Did not like his Iranian background.


72 posted on 02/17/2017 10:51:44 AM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
>>The "Military-Industrial Complex," as Ike explained, is only a part of the problem.

Yep.

Consider the history of the past 56+ years in context...


73 posted on 02/17/2017 11:05:34 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
>> the corrupt congress

That's what human nature creates. That's why America's founders created a framework of laws - a Republic.

It's the rule of Law Vs the rule of Men.

What is the purpose of American government?

"TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS"

Salvaging any system begins with finding and understanding the original specs!


74 posted on 02/17/2017 11:17:34 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch; exit82; TigerClaws; SaveFerris
General Flynn's son made a statement about many members of the Washington elite being involved in a pediphilia scandle didn't he? ....Was Gen. Flynn actually taken out by the intelligence community because of the FBI's roundup of perverts around the country?

Here is the tweet in question.

I saw a story with comments from the left (Media Matters). Look at the comments. They were going nuts!

https://mediamatters.org/video/2016/12/05/cnn-panel-highlights-how-far-fake-news-can-go-when-amplified-people-trump-adviser-michael-flynn/214711

75 posted on 02/17/2017 12:04:25 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: laplata

Two items of note.

Trump has used treasury agents for certain law enforcement duties. That to me shows distrust for all the other agencies and I will not be surprised if people start getting arrested by treasury agents.

I don’t think Treasury agents are accountable to the DOJ and can be more easily directed by the President through the Treasury Secretary.

Next item: Trumps protection detail included private contractors hired by Trump.


76 posted on 02/17/2017 12:37:43 PM PST by Fhios
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To: SkyPilot

There was a tweet alleged to be from his son, but I’m not sure that was verified, so I guess it could have been a fake account.

Flynn was involved with shutting down the drug trade from Venezuela, and that likely was also shutting down the sex trafficking and organ harvesting alleged to be happening in Haiti. I think the raid in Yemen, also captured information related to money laundering of all the criminal stuff HRC was handling.

Video below connects the dots on HRC/Foundation and the reasons for the wars in the Middle East and Chris Stevens death:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCTzFNrsKns&list=PLcgk8FfGnzkxDSYW-3gqzNBVxJVE2a9Hh

This video explains more about Pedo and Haiti:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkQrCYWHugY


77 posted on 02/17/2017 1:01:46 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: itsahoot

This is a well thought out and nicely presented post. Thanks.

I generally agree and feel the same.

I am addressing the Zero Hedge article and its tone, sensationalism, exaggeration and spirit.

I was addressing the melodramatic and overwrought nature of the article. It seemed to me it’s message was one of fear and despair when we should be feeling the exact opposite.


78 posted on 02/17/2017 1:11:11 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: taildragger

Wise words.


79 posted on 02/17/2017 1:13:02 PM PST by exnavy (God save the republic.)
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To: thirst4truth

I concur.


80 posted on 02/17/2017 1:13:27 PM PST by exnavy (God save the republic.)
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