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To: 1Old Pro

He had to go because he lied or mislead the pres and vice pres. If they taped the conversation, and gave the transcripts to Trump, then what’s the big deal. Very confusing.


8 posted on 02/14/2017 9:53:01 AM PST by nikos1121 (We are about to see The Golden Age of Pericles in the new Trump Administration.)
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To: nikos1121

The big deal like the real important questions are what no one is asking.

Follow the chain:

NSA (most likely) monitors all communications but priority goes to Russian and Chinese (the big players).

NSA discovers that a Russian is talking to someone in the USA. Normally the American remains unidentified for privacy reasons and also because it is against NSA’s charter.

Here’s where it gets tricky - someone (A) decides that the American is talking about a crime or committing one.

That someone (A) goes somewhere and states that an American talking to a foreign official is or has committed a crime.

Some other person (B) decides that someone (A) is correct and grants access to (A) to discover the American’s name.

Some one (A) then discovers that the American is an official in the Trump Administration - M Flynn.

This is big so (A) goes to others (C) and they decide to leak the info.

We now have a very select very small group who knows Flynn talked to a Russian. This info is compartmentalized and SAP only.

Who do they leak it to? Perhaps the FBI to begin a preliminary but secret criminal investigation or something. Or perhaps to the State Department who then leaks to the media.

Why are these people A and the rest doing this? Because they hate/despise Trump and Flynn.0 These people could be Republican or Democrats - but likely a political motivation would lead one to thing Democrat (then again Senate Republicans are calling for an investigation of DJT and his Russian connections).

Once Flynn’s action become public, what have they achieved? They have helped put one nail in the DJT Administration coffin, and they have greatly harmed the USA’s national security by revealing the leak and thereby the method and means (just after beginning to recover from the utter disaster Eddy Snowjob revelations of method and means to the Russians and Chinese) - whatever source NSA used to record the conversation is now useless, gone, never can be used again.

That’s the big deal, the 800- lb Gorilla.


89 posted on 02/14/2017 12:09:37 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: nikos1121

Flynn was in the forefront of exposing Obama/Clinton treason with respect to arming ISIS. I don’t believe any of the spin. I want to see the entire transcript myself, because I have yet to find a news source who is ever 100% accurate in their reporting and characterizations.

As part of the transition team, it was absolutely appropriate for him to talk to the Russian Ambassador, and try to avoid escalating the march toward nuclear war that Obama and the NeoCons want.

Just remember that most of the Republicans are GOPe and most of the Government and Intelligence agencies are full of Obama/Clinton loyalists who are going to set traps and fight against Trump.

If everyone was fired that ought to be fired, there would probably be almost no one left - especially in the State Department.


96 posted on 02/14/2017 1:43:04 PM PST by greeneyes
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