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First Shift: CEOs ask Trump to review mpg rule
Automotive News ^ | February 13, 2017

Posted on 02/13/2017 8:28:09 AM PST by GonzoII

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To: FreeReign

1968 was a great year for cars.


61 posted on 02/13/2017 10:44:08 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Is that the Byron airport, in California?


62 posted on 02/13/2017 10:44:29 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: central_va

Yeah, but you’ve chosen the second most boring class on the market as an example - cheap econoboxes made with fuel economy as one of the top design requirements. Of course they’re going to look broadly similar.


63 posted on 02/13/2017 10:44:38 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: snowtigger; ExTexasRedhead; MinuteGal

“PS: I am now retired and still have it. Managed to put 96,000 miles on it before retirement, enjoyed every mile. “

Unfortunately, the RATs don’t understand the words “enjoyed every mile!” In fact they have so engrained in their psyches the whole idea of being perpetually disgruntled about absolutely everything, that the word “enjoy” is stricken from their lexicon. The other word always on the tips of their tongues is “offended.”


64 posted on 02/13/2017 10:45:51 AM PST by vette6387
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To: PhiloBedo

I can’t tell because if I look at that picture I fall asleep.


65 posted on 02/13/2017 10:46:51 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: FreeReign

The Javelin is often mistaken for a Chevelle (go check the owner forums as well as the recent Jay Leno video where he comments on that), unless you see the front or the badges the Cougar gets mistaken for a Mustang and the Firebird and the Camaro are easily mistaken for each other unless you can see the front or the taillights (no surprise, same platform).


66 posted on 02/13/2017 10:47:52 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: catnipman

“I’ll take my 2000 Prelude over a ‘67 goat any day of the week.”

And you will tell your children “with pride” about your Suzuki Samurai too! I still get to climb into my 1963 Corvette Stingray Coupe and enjoy it every bit as much as the day I bought it new! There are no Japoshitboxes in this household. We buy American!


67 posted on 02/13/2017 10:49:46 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Enterprise

My favorite Goat!


68 posted on 02/13/2017 10:50:51 AM PST by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: Spktyr
I'm a classic car fanatic I have absolutely no trouble telling a Javelin from a Chevelle.

They are not even close to looking alike.

69 posted on 02/13/2017 10:53:01 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

At a car show with a friend of mine who actually owns a Javelin, about half the people that stopped asked what kind of Chevelle it was. Ages were pretty well distributed from youngsters to grayhairs.


70 posted on 02/13/2017 10:58:55 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Do YOU really think those cars look alike?


71 posted on 02/13/2017 11:00:39 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

No, but the thing is most people seem to think they do, which is what matters.


72 posted on 02/13/2017 11:03:45 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Your daily cruiser is a bike?


73 posted on 02/13/2017 11:06:30 AM PST by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: Spktyr

The cars are being mis identified. That doesn’t mean they look alike. You are mistaking the two situations.


74 posted on 02/13/2017 11:07:41 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Spktyr
At a car show with a friend of mine who actually owns a Javelin, about half the people that stopped asked what kind of Chevelle it was. Ages were pretty well distributed from youngsters to gray hairs.

Obviously the name recognition for 50 year old cars for some gets difficult. That doesn't however prove your point about the two cars looking the same.

Put a 68 Javelin next to a 68 Mustang and people would obviously see that they are two distinct types of cars.

75 posted on 02/13/2017 11:08:24 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: bankwalker
Yup, it is. Faster than 99% of anything else out there, good fuel economy so the fun doesn't end too soon, get the best parking spots and most importantly for the daily commute I can legally use the HOV lanes by myself - ride past all the solo-occupied cars laughing my arse off. Texas doesn't have lane splitting/sharing yet, but I don't have to sit in highway traffic much.

Typical parking spot:

Pictured with my friend's red VFR that he used to daily until he bought something else:

Cars are *sloooooooooooow*.

76 posted on 02/13/2017 11:19:42 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Enterprise
Nah, the '69 was much better looking: Seriously, the CAFE limits need to go the way of the dinosaur. Technology is allowing the car companies to make substantial improvements without government mandates, and competition forces the best to market (if the gov't stays out of the marketplace. My 2015 Impala with a V-6 goes 0-60 in 6.0 seconds, and does a 1/4 mile in 14.7 at 97 mph. Compare that to my '69 GTO at 7.3 seconds, and 15.7 at 88 mph. Plus the Impala handles better, gets twice the mileage, has zinc-coated steel that won't rust, a MUCH better sound system and Bluetooth. Yeah, it sounds like a [insert female body part] until about 4,500 RPM, but it PERFORMS. Today's V-8s are WAY better than anything that could be touched back in the late-60s and early-70s. Let them continue to be produced.
77 posted on 02/13/2017 11:20:10 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: FreeReign

The funny thing is that at this show, the Javelin was parked between a 71 Chevelle on one side and a 70 Charger on the other. It didn’t help.


78 posted on 02/13/2017 11:22:43 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: dfwgator

“The way I see it, is that the less gas we consume the less we have to pay to the Arabs.”


We have about 9 Saudi Arabias worth of oil underneath our feet. Screw the Arabs, lets drill for it HERE.

P.S. In about 2-3 years, the price to produce shale using ultra-high speed computers and fracking will be about $20/bbl. We could break the Arabs in a few years, just as we broke the USSR. Oh, and have a crapload of fun in really great cars while doing it.


79 posted on 02/13/2017 11:25:29 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: vette6387

“We buy American”

Me too. Almost all Hondas and Toyotas are made in the USA. Have been for years. And many “American” cars are made in Canada or Mexico. Chrysler is owned by Fiat, and all so-called “American made” autos are assembled with parts mostly made in other countries, and that’s been the case for years as well.

There’s no such thing as a newly made “American” car anymore.


80 posted on 02/13/2017 11:26:48 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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