Posted on 02/08/2017 2:27:55 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch told a US senator Wednesday that President Donald Trump's tweets about the judiciary are "demoralizing" and "disheartening."
In a meeting with Connecticut Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal, Gorsuch, who's largely been silent since Trump nominated him last week, took exception to Trump calling a federal judge in Seattle a "so-called judge" after blocking the President's travel ban.
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Chess here would be the nuclear option.
Have you stopped to think about how transparent the Trump presidency appears to be due to his constant tweets? People are going to start thinking about Obama and how they never knew what he was doing or where he was. A strong contrast I’d say.
President Trump is keeping the media jumping, constantly giving them something to stress over or complain about, meanwhile he goes about doing what he wants without one journalist seriously paying attention.
I find it interesting and the reactions of the media funny, I check his twitter sights a couple of times a day.
I absolutely agree with you. Another Souter or Kennedy.
Get rid of him.
I’m trying to understand why he is considered a conservative.
I had a bad vibe about him the night he was nominated. He looked fake gracious to president Trump
This guy has to go. He is already pandering to the left.
I am flipping furious.
Assuming Gorsuch did say this... it is another man who has no outward fight against wrongs. I want Trump to keep fighting against all the wrongs that have been done and still ongoing. The judge who we are yet waiting on for a decision, was WRONG and no one needs to defend that! It should be spoken against. One can’t let this stuff go unanswered like it has for so many years. That judge does not stand in a higher position than the President. To say Trump can’t answer back by reading the law.. is ridiculous. and his tweets are just Trump.
Not to promising...
A rector who marched against Trump, gay blessings, gun control, Muslim outreach and ‘climate crisis’ solar panels on the roof: Meet Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch’s ultra-liberal church
St. John’s Episcopal Church is led by a pastor who proudly attended the anti-Trump Women’s March in Denver the day after the President’s inauguration
Rev. Susan Springer has said she is pro-gay marriage and offers blessings to same-sex couples
Another member of the clergy is outspoken about the need for gun control
The church’s Rev. Ted Howard also signed a letter slamming the ‘disrespectful rhetoric’ directed at Islam as Trump floated a ban on Muslim immigrants
Church authorities also appear to be strongly in favor of environmental initiatives and added solar panels to the roof because of ‘climate crisis’
If Gorsuch is confirmed, he will renew the Supreme Court’s Christian majority and join as the only non-Catholic member
But like you said for the last fifty years these activist tyrants have done unbelievable harm to our Constitution and our country.
Just look at the problems and the waste in time and money, not to mention the possible harm this ridiculous ruling has already exposed the country to.
He knew the law and should have chewed them out for being ridiculous for trying to use him and the courts to settle a temper tantrum.
Instead he joins in the game to slap the President's face and now the entire 9th circuit has joined this silly game.
He new exactly what he was doing and speaking of respect, what about the total lack of respect he showed the President of the United States it's people.
what about the total frivolous disrespect he showed to his own office he was given to uphold.
If these charlatans want respect let them give it, and earn it.
Personally I would to see a couple of judges set up like some use to be, who have some good common sense, good character and absolutely no liberal law degree.
All you have to do is be able to read, pray and know right from wrong.
Not even fake news.
Never was news.
Not even a dream.
Maybe another drug addled hallucination* in a CNN gay hot tub.
*Thanks to Safetgiver
Apples and oranges. If a conservative judge legislated from the bench to overturn written and properly constitutional law, I’d have no problem with Ebola calling him out.
That’s not Citizens United.
What the Senator has said about the meeting: "[Gorsuch] expressed to me that he is disheartened by the demoralizing and abhorrent comments by President Trump about the judiciary".
Is there any indication that Gorsuch actually used the words "abhorrent" and "demoralizing"?
Nope! The most obvious way to read the above sentence is that those two words describe *ONLY* Blumenthal's personal opinion of Trump's words.
In other words, Blumenthal's statement is equivalent to: "Gorsuch expressed to me that he is disheartened by the comments made by President Trump, which by the way are comments that I find both demoralizing and abhorrent".
His only claim about what Gorsuch actually said to him is that Gorsuch indicated SOME level of negative feelings towards Trump's words (the "so-called judge" tweet?), and Blumenthal has chosen to paraphrase Gorsuch as being "disheartened".
Ron Bonjean, who is leading communications for Gorsuch during the confirmation process, confirmed Gorsuch called Trump’s tweet about the “so-called judge” “disheartening” and “demoralizing” in his conversation with Blumenthal.
So yes, Gorsuch is confirmed to have used "Disheartening & Demoralizing" by the guy the WH assigned to him as Communications Person.
OTOH, let's put this in perspective: Gorsuch wasn't necessarily saying he thought everything Trump said about the Seattle judge was "D & D" to him.
Most likely, Gorsuch was feeling "D&D" about Trump's calling the Seattle leftist judge a "so-called judge". Ie, when Trump implied he was not a legitimate judge.
This is a big step further than merely saying that the judge "made a terrible decision" - which Trump also said, and which even many liberal law experts (eg Alan Dershowitz) agree with.
Trump should have stopped while he was ahead. If he'd stopped at the "Judge made a terrible decision" quote, that would have been the extent of the MSM's takeaway headline, and only the TDSers would be complaining. And the focus of the public would be on the awful decision.
But unfortunately he went further, delegitimized the judge, and thus turned the spotlight away from the judge's bad decision and instead fully onto himself. Basically what Trump said amounts to: "When is a judge not a real judge? When I say so, that's when".
There are times when "so-called" makes sense to be used, and times when it does not. EG: I feel perfectly happy calling Sotomayor "a so-called Wise Latina". But could not justify my calling her "a so-called Supreme Court judge".
Bottom Line: Trump's "so-called" quote to delegitimize this judge is the very same thing that we get hot about all the time when people use it against Trump.
Unless one celebrates their own hypocrisy, then either both of the following quotes should bother them, or neither should bother them:
or not....
He probably said something like the situation within the judicial system is disheartening and now his comment is being distorted by fake news outlets.
I would hope that a SCOTUS justice would be able to stop and think about the meaning of text before pronouncing judgment upon it. That will be important during this Presidency in particular, where the President will never give an academic "rational basis" for doing anything because that is not his communication style. Rather he puts out tweets that explain his reasoning in raw terms.
In post #38, I quoted a number of instances where Scalia accused judges of not acting like judges, calling them "my Ruler" and accusing them of a "Putsch", of "o'erweening pride" and egotism. It's important for a SCOTUS justice to be able to do that, psychologically, because otherwise they will be unable to overturn the horrible precedents that have built up over the years (Roe et seq, Romer et seq). I've heard criticisms of Gorsuch that he is too enamored of stare decesis (precedent), and if he is unable to abide an insult to a lower-court judge by an elected official without uttering statements that compromise his impartiality then I question his fitness for the job.
That was my whole point. Dems don’t go along, they get this. They are going to squeal anyway, so to hell with them.
“congratulations letting the media get inside your head?”
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You are totally off base. Please read my post again. I specifically said that infuriating the press is a good thing.
I really don’t care what the arrogant, corrupt and dishonest media says. My point is that the constant tweeting sounds like whining and he dilutes his message when he attempts to comment about everything and everyone.
Just like in warfare, its hard to win when you’re fighting on multiple fronts. Its a well known and wise axiom that you have to pick and choose your battles and concentrate on those where victories have the highest payoff. You don’t stop attacking; you just attack more effectively.
Your post #38 does not make the point you think it does. If you re-read it, you'll see Scalia was careful to not name any fellow justices. All his high-wattage adjectives are aimed at unnamed entities such as "This opinion" or "a majority of the nine" or "today's judicial Putsch" or "a bare majority of this Court".
And you can't just wave your hand and say, "Well, everyone KNOWS who he was referring to, so it's basically the same thing." No it's not the same thing.
LOL, that’s because there’s nine members on that court. Trump didn’t name the judge either!
Sick of his tweets.Act like a President.
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