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Second Highest ATF Official Suggests Gun Law and Regulation Reforms (HPA included)
ammoland ^ | 6 February, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/06/2017 4:49:09 PM PST by marktwain

Arizona – -(Ammoland.com)-A “white paper“, written by the second highest ranking official of the ATF, has been obtained by the Washington Post. The date, official, and reforms mentioned, are all significant.  The paper was dated January 20th, 2017,  inauguration day.

Ronald B. Turk is the author. The paper expresses “the ideas and opinions” of Mr. Turk. From the washingtonpost.com:

The second-highest-ranking official at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has written a proposal to reduce gun regulations, including examining a possible end to the ban on importing assault weapons into the United States.

The “white paper” by Ronald B. Turk, associate deputy director and chief operating officer of the ATF, calls for removing restrictions on the sale of gun silencers; allowing gun dealers to have more guns used in crimes traced to their stores before the federal government requires additional information from the dealer; and initiating a study on lifting the ban on imported assault weapons.

A number of common sense reforms are discussed in the paper. People in the gun culture will recognize many of them as obvious reforms that would have happened long ago, if there were a sympathetic ear in the White House.

Here are short descriptions of the reforms.  The long versions are available in the paper itself.

1.  FFL license issued for sales at gun shows only, no sales required at physical address. (This removes much of local “veto power” of FFl license issue)

2.  Rational review of  “armor piercing” ammo for rifles.

3. Re-importation of Certain DOD Surplus Firearms from Foreign Countries. (Garands and MI Carbines, anyone?)

4.  Variances on “transfers” of Machine guns for people in DOD industry and Theater industry.

(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; gunlaw; hpa
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To: OttawaFreeper

I believe John Lott did a study on waiting periods, and found that they had little impact except a slight increase in crime.


21 posted on 02/06/2017 5:19:40 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: marktwain

Pass a Federal law that nullifies the unconstitutional gun laws in states like California, Massachusetts, Colorado, New Jersey, New York, Illinois, Hawaii, and all the rest. Also pass a national right to carry.


22 posted on 02/06/2017 5:21:22 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: marktwain
Second Highest ATF Official Suggests Gun Law and Regulation Reforms

Disband the ATF and assign this guy to FBI arms trafficking interdiction in Benghazi, Libya.

23 posted on 02/06/2017 5:22:00 PM PST by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: Iron Munro

I bet he isn’t too popular at the BATFE these days.


Probably half the management and 3/4 of the agents are cheering him on.

Those inside the beast know it the best.


24 posted on 02/06/2017 5:23:03 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: SkyPilot

They didn’t have a problem foisting homo marriage and trannies on the rest of us, but that was last year.
Now they are strong states rights advocates, haven’t you heard? There’s something queer about that ....


25 posted on 02/06/2017 5:28:06 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: SkyPilot

What would be an interesting thing to do would be to compare and contrast the firearms laws and ownership cultures of places like Vermont, New York, Texas, and California and/or the areas that these states tend to represent.

I have in my personal library a copy of David Kopel’s “The Samurai, The Mountie, and the Cowboy”. In that book, Kopel looked at Canada, Jamaica, Japan, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, Australia, and New Zealand and compared and contrasted such laws and cultures in those respective countries. It would be an interesting study to do something similar in the varying regions of the United States alone (with the areas I mentioned as examples).


26 posted on 02/06/2017 5:33:06 PM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: marktwain
"ATF"

This is just an aside, but the lumping of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms under one agency has always seemed strange to me. I mean, we don't have an agency for cakes, pies, and power tools, so why are these three things associated with each other? Is it to - in a subtle way - suggest that firearms are an optional vice like alcohol and tobacco, and therefore not constitutionally protected? Just wondering.
27 posted on 02/06/2017 5:56:08 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

They all have excise taxes placed on them.

In my view, there should be no special tax on Firearms, as they are Constitutionally protected.


28 posted on 02/06/2017 5:58:20 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: Steve_Seattle

They were a tax enforcement agency. Treasury, you know, “revenuers”.


29 posted on 02/06/2017 6:05:38 PM PST by lrdg
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To: SkyPilot

No! We need something in between. At this moment in our history I’m okay with allowing liberals significant challenges to gun ownership and concealed carry.


30 posted on 02/06/2017 6:05:43 PM PST by Obadiah (Democrats continue to wage their crusade against normal.)
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To: OttawaFreeper
I think you would have to examine subcultures as well.

People assume that in states like New Jersey or New York, everyone is a big, anti-gun liberal. Right?

Wrong.

In upstate NY (where I grew up), people are furious over the SAFE Act.

In Connecticut, there was an outright revolt. 95% of gun owners refused to register their firearms.

In south and central New Jersey, people are incensed at the illogical and unconstitutional "assault weapons" law.

Here is an illustration of how stupid and illogical these laws are. In NJ, you cannot have a combination of a collapsible or folding stock, a flash suppressor, pistol grip, bayonet lug, etc.

When asked why they wrote that law that you have to pin the collapsible stock, the answer was: "Because it makes the gun more concealable, and therefore more deadly!" OK, so you have to ruin a perfectly good stock, and pin it. But you can pin it fully closed if you want, so long as it is pinned.

Therefore, the permanent pinning of the stock makes it.........MORE CONCEALABLE.

But there is not "logic" to this, it is just harassment and fascism.

I pray that Trump battles this insanity and does something about it. Here in NJ, honest, good people have gone to prison (serving hard time with violent criminals) because they ran afoul of our entrapment "gun laws."

31 posted on 02/06/2017 6:05:47 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: tumblindice
They didn’t have a problem foisting homo marriage and trannies on the rest of us, but that was last year.

We are battling pure evil. It's that simple.

32 posted on 02/06/2017 6:06:21 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: lrdg
"They were a tax enforcement agency. Treasury, you know, “revenuers”."

Ah, yes. But lots of other things are taxed, too, and it seems that these were linked together under the idea that they were all "sin" taxes. So, owning a gun was considered quasi-sinful.
33 posted on 02/06/2017 6:12:51 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: editor-surveyor

That’s what I was thinking.


34 posted on 02/06/2017 6:15:26 PM PST by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I don’t know. The last I heard the Haitian army was still using Garands. Good source of income for that nation.


35 posted on 02/06/2017 6:16:33 PM PST by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: TADSLOS

Amen

See my tagline of the last several years :-)


36 posted on 02/06/2017 7:37:19 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: MSF BU
I don’t know. The last I heard the Haitian army was still using Garands.

They could certainly do a lot worse. Remember what Patton said about the Garand.

37 posted on 02/06/2017 7:37:35 PM PST by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
!
38 posted on 02/06/2017 7:45:37 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: SkyPilot

Eggs ackley


39 posted on 02/06/2017 7:47:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: Obadiah

I’m not much for continuing to allow Libs a significant challenge to 2A rights or much else for that matter. Given free rein, they’ve essentially obliterated the right via restrictive laws in too many states. Please share what you mean by something in between??


40 posted on 02/06/2017 8:17:22 PM PST by Postman (The Flies have finished defining BHO and HRC and will be moving on)
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