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To: Windflier

No, I’m saying that executive orders have become way over-used and should be scrutinized.

You should be cheering not objecting to anyone who questions the constitutionality of a massive amount of federal action in a short period of time. WE are the watchdogs. Certainly the feds won’t watch themselves as evidenced by decades of unconstitutional federal acts and tyranny.

The executive orders that countermands Obama’s outrageous EO’s - that’s probably a good and valid thing. The rest I’m not so sure.

While everyone’s cheering for Trump’s quick moves, remember, our Constitutional Republic is constitutionally designed to move slowly. A totalitarian regime moves quickly.

So Trump’s quickly undoing the unconstitutional dictatorial stuff Obama did is a good thing and I think valid. But Trump should go through the proper constitutional channels to implement his agenda. I’m not saying he necessarily is not doing that even though it seems like a lot of EO’s but then Obama issued a lot of EO’s and DIDN’T implement laws Congress passed. But normally as I said, the President doesn’t issue EO’s to implement Congressional laws.


95 posted on 02/04/2017 4:02:10 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
You should be cheering not objecting to anyone who questions the constitutionality of a massive amount of federal action in a short period of time.

Jim, I'm not objecting to you questioning President Trump's executive orders, but I'm certainly not cheering you, either.

You've demonstrated on this thread that you're woefully underinformed about the legality and constitutionality of the President's recent EOs, so I really can't have a conversation with you, regarding them.

Have a good evening.

107 posted on 02/04/2017 4:21:14 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Jim 0216

Consider an executive order to be a statement of priority, or clarification on the proper and faithful execution of existing law.

In many cases, he can’t just call the agency in question and ask them pretty please nicely to do their job. That would lead to chaos and claims of miscommunication - and give the agencies in question excuses for laying down on the job. There are also many in the federal gov’t engaged in active subversion and outright treason at this point and they’re not going to actually do their damn job unless the boss puts them on it formally in writing.

Many laws have executive discretion explicitly written into them. Trump has not only the constitutional authority, but the responsibility to his constituents (all of us) to ensure legislation is being carried out dutifully and towards the desired end. I haven’t seen anywhere in this thread where you’ve brought up one single Trump EO that would even remotely qualify as “legislating” from the Whitehouse.

Nothing even totalitarian or dictatorial about it. The man is just doing his job.


138 posted on 02/05/2017 12:15:52 AM PST by Eisenhower Republican (Nope. Still not tired of winning.)
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