Sorry #NeverTrumpers But You Don’t Get To Dismount Your High Horse Today

The Last Refuge - The Conservative Treehouse ^ | FEBRUARY 1, 2017 | SUNDANCE

[onyx]

Sorry #NeverTrumpers, but you don”t get to dismount your high horse and celebrate the nomination of Judge Neil Gorsuch today. This is NOT your victory, this is ours!

There is a gobsmacking level of pontificating self-righteousness visible from the collective proletariat within your crony-conservative movement who made the decision to formulate their political argument from a position of opposition.

Perhaps it would be different if you framed your antagonism from a position of advocacy, but that wasn’t the direction you chose. No, you chose a specific position of opposition as clearly evident within your chosen mantra “Never Trump”.

Perhaps it would be different if you ever had a come-to-Jesus moment and apologized immediately following the November election. Then again, when your opinion of your own self-importance is this high, those humble words are just as foreign as your understanding of the movement that won.

You don’t get to frame the entire construct of your argument around opposition to a team, and then claim benefit to the outcome of victory. Stay on your high-horse, move along and ride off into that proverbial land of irrelevance; you’re dead here.

Save your dismount for another defining “conservative” assembly where you can gather at CPAC again and give a standing ovation to House Speaker Paul Ryan a month after he eliminates the debt ceiling and passes a $2 trillion OmniBus spending bill, funding all of the progressive priorities you hypocritically claim to oppose; you’re good at that.

That particular circle of crazy just doesn’t sell here any longer.

Save up your fiscal hypocrisy, you’ll need it. Because in less than two months our victorious bastard will deliver a budget that cuts a trillion “per year” out of the federal coffers…. and there is no doubt the beneficiary of your prior applause will be counting on your fiscally conservative sensibilities to protest for more spending on his behalf.

Oh, and keep your newest VAT tax construct. We’ll bring the sledgehammer, save your gilded and monogrammed tweezers for a swamp audience stupid enough to believe it – Thank you.

Oh, and don’t go getting all pearl-clutchy. This isn’t anger directed toward you, this is far, far worse. This is a very targeted and deliberate Cold Anger surrounding you and the swamp creatures of your affiliation. This sensibility never forgets.

You had a choice. You chose a direction, you lost; and you damn near lost the entire friggin’ country. Just because the team you ridiculed and attacked has overcome all opposition and gained victory, that doesn’t mean you get to backtrack now and expect the bruised and bloodied recipients to forget those who launched the stones and arrows.

Save your wine-spritzers and crust-less triangle sandwiches. We didn’t have well financed high-horses, we launched boots, well-worn boots, scratched, clawed and advanced despite your hoighty-toighty principles, intransigence and unwillingness to cuss or get your hands dirty.

Good grief, your insufferable sensibilities were frightened of frog memes, FROG MEMES!

It was our deplorable and calloused hands that volunteered, opened our piggy banks, and held firm to support each other and our vulgarian candidate against all opposition. You were part of that opposition.

While we were getting bloodied in Chicago, Virginia and California your ilk were worried about our tone and political sensibilities. But worse than that, much much worse than that, you #NeverTrumpers broke the cardinal rule of grassroots camaraderie, you aided the other side.

While our candidate was wearing a friggin’ bullet-proof-vest to deliver Justice Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court, you took every opportunity to broadcast your litmus-test purist antagonism in every outlet you could muster.

Your arrogant self-righteous efforts not only didn’t help, but they actually opposed our common sense objective. You were as much a benefit to Hillary Clinton and Mitch McConnell as Media Matters and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, perhaps even more. Lest you need a reminder:

VIDEO!
GROUP OF CONSERVATIVES UNITE TO STOP TRUMP / THE KELLY FILE

No, today you don’t get to rejoice in victory – it isn’t yours. You are worse than the enemy. At least a righteous enemy claims opposition from outside the wire, wears identifiable uniforms and looks you in the eye. Your choice of opposition was to lay toxic land mines inside our own territory, obstruct us at every engagement, and sit back gleefully predicting our defeat.

This victory today is ours. The victory belongs to all the Donald Trump supporters who absorbed your constant ridicule as fuel. The team who battled through the ridicule of the media and the ridicule of the elitist class, and stood in cold Virgina fields at 2am because we knew we needed to keep moving forward despite your efforts.

You #NeverTrump crony-constitutional purists were then, and are now, just as much a part of the problem as before – there is no place for you here, we’re deplorable. Put on your pussy hats and just go join the other side. We didn’t get your support in 2016 and we won’t need it in 2020.

Shut up. Be thankful, quietly.

We’ve got this, and much more yet to come…

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Happy Birthday Andrew !

 

[slipper]

Wow!! Are you ever out in left field. I never thought for one minute that Trump was thinking of appointing his sister. That idea seemed to come from the never Trumpers, and others who jumped to conclusions.

Of course he praised his sister, is proud of her, as he should. Sounds like Trump and his sister do not agree on politics!

[DoughtyOne]

How much of an endorsement was it Ace?

Tell me who he nominated.

As I said, pull your head out of your rectum and breath some fresh air.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3519508/posts?page=242#242

[DoughtyOne]

As I have said twice now, pull your head out of your rectum and take a breath of fresh air.

Trump is ten times the president Ted even dreamed of being.

[DoughtyOne]

Yep, Tead certainly did.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3519508/posts?page=242#242

[DoughtyOne]

Nice point. I agree with your take on it, but it does seem self-serving for me to do it.

You logic is sound from my perspective, regardless.

[MrEdd]

Sowell ended his career as if Andy Griffith were his primary role model.

[taxcontrol]

You are incorrect sir, he is not a “solid conservative”. At best, he is a recent convert to conservatism.

Prior to running for office, Donald Trump has held an number of liberal positions. In some areas, he continues to hold liberal positions.

Here is a small sample of his prior liberal positions:

- Love Hillary and Bill
- Supported the assault weapons ban
- supports the government take over of healthcare i.e universal healthcare
- supported the legalization of drugs
- supported huge tax increases on the wealthy
- supported pro-choice while saying he personally was against abortion.

It has only been since 2009 that Donald Trump was even registered as a Republican.

[taxcontrol]

Again with the name calling. Is that the best that you have to support your position?

[DoughtyOne]

If you want to toss trash onto the forum, don’t be surprised if people treat you like trash.

Trump has not been supporting Leftists for SCOTUS nominees.

You know that. We all know that.

If you want to claim he is, don’t be surprised of you get massive push-back.

[MrEdd]

Reality is what he has actually proven to do.
Not what you imagined he would do.
And it doesn’t matter how long you spent imagining things, or how much indignation you felt in your imaginings.

Yes we know.
You had us at the stawberries.

[DoughtyOne]

“:^)

[DoughtyOne]

Do you realize you are the exact reason why I am pushing the Tead Cruz is a political dead entity right now?

Here you are still spinning things for Tead even today.

Earlier you tried to toss the idea across the transom, that Tead Curz was the reason Trump gave up appointing Leftists to the SCOTUS.

You are still trying to steal Trump’s credit from him at this late date.

Trump appoints someone good, Tead comes out and says it’s a good appointment, and then you toss out comments about Tead really doing the nation a good service by getting Trump’s head straight before he became president.

This is why I’m on the forum reminding folks about Tead Curz’s actions last year.

I’m not going to sit still for one second, watching people help Tead rehab his image here.

Tead Curz betrayed the nation last year.

He didn’t help Trump or the nation.

He and his side-kicks did their best to make sure Trump was never elected.

Tead’s lackluster endorsement and appearances not withstanding, Tead was perfectly happy to have Hillary win the election, if it meant Trump would not be president.

I know it. You know it. Anyone willing to be honest with themselves knows it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3519508/posts?page=242#242

[Strac6]

Sorry, but you are wrong.

Some rules from the real world:

#1: When an interviewee attacks the questioner, it’s usually because they are uncomfortable with their answer to the question asked.

#2: A smart candidate loves tough questions. The tougher the question the better. Tough questions should be expected and give a candidate the chance to shine in response to them.

Unfair questions are even better, because they give the candidate a chance to say “Gee, Megan, you’re assuming some facts in setting the foundation for your questions. In reality, what you are assuming as facts are simply, and perhaps even dangerously, incorrect. The real facts are......” and then you restate the correct underlying foundationals. (”redefine the playing field”) and how show your answer is so obviously the very correct, and “very beneficial to the voters’” answer.

#3: That whole thing about blood coming out or the Carly Fiorina ugly face was simply foolish. Yes, Mr. Trump won, thank God and conservative politics, but those two things were very negative to women voters.

The bottom line is, DJT won the presidency, and she will be yesterday’s news in 12-18 months.... and that is good. Katie Couric and Diane Sawyer are just two examples of over-hyped females.

[taxcontrol]

Again with the name calling. Is that the best that you have to support your position?

[DoughtyOne]

What difference does it make? You can’t read or incorporate facts into your world view.

You poor thing.

Get someone to come over and read to you.

[taxcontrol]

Since you either cant or wont support your position and all you have left is name calling, there really is no further need for this conversation.

Good day

[Hostage]

- Love Hillary and Bill
Love? After that first word of yours, no one should show you the time of day because you would waste the time to show you. It is not true at all. Trump meets, smiles with, has photos taken with thousands of people. Clinton was a Senator from NY and her husband an ex-Pres. When such people approach and there is important high profile business that will be publicized widely, a CEO is obliged to be polite and congenial. As a politician it is different.

- Supported the assault weapons ban
Most every politician in NYC supported it and still do. As a builder in NYC it is necessary to donate to politicians and tell the press what its politicians like to hear. When Trump decided to run for office he was able to say what he really thinks. Rudy Guliani was the same way. When in business you go along to get along as necessary, and you don’t create conflicts where unnecessary unless you plan to run for office. If you don’t understand that, then you have never had a business with a substantial number of employees and investors.

- supports the government take over of healthcare i.e universal healthcare

He does not support it and as a private citizen he complained that his employee’s health premiums were growing out of control, no different than thousands of other CEOs do every year. When he was developing projects in Scotland, he was told their universal health system worked marvelously and that businesses were not impacted. Then he learned the reality and has condemned Obamacare. President Trump is a problem solver and will apply his talents to fixing the healthcare system in the US.

- supported the legalization of drugs
Now that’s a lie right there. President Trump has been against drugs all his life ever since his beloved older brother succumbed to alcoholism. He supports making medical marijuana a state issue and not a federal issue. The President doesn’t believe in micromanaging every aspect of life of individual Americans. He focuses on the big picture, he wiil not sign any bill supporting federal legalization of harmful, recreational, elicit and habit forming drugs unless approved by the FDA and prescribed by doctors.

- supported huge tax increases on the wealthy
That is a lie. He is for closing obscene Wall St. loopholes, not for raising taxes. The fat cats he was referring to are hedge fund sharks that rake in more than 200 million each year and pay no taxes, ZERO. He said it is obscene and it is. He is NOT in favor of increasing INCOME taxes, he will be lowering them drastically for every income earner. He will, however, close tax loopholes on the sharks that get away with paying ZERO taxes.

- supported pro-choice while saying he personally was against abortion.
He supported it until 2011 when he became pro-life. He has never wavered on being pro-life, never walked it back. And 2011 was long before he entered politics. He was wrong to be pro-choice and he has admitted it numerous times, When he entered politics, he faced a very liberal hostile crowd in Vermont and said without hesitating that he was pro-life while motioning on to the next question. That took guts. He did not hem or haw, he was straight-faced and serious.

Ok, it is obvious that you are Cruz-styled roadkill from the 2016 election because it is evident you learned NOTHING while holding onto things that were long ago debunked or never true to begin with.

[Lopeover]

You never Trumpers have much, much, much to prove by your actions and your voices! Glen Cheetos Beck has to come up with greater disparaging food memes for leading opposition party (Democrat) members and their media!

Get cracking, Glen or start drinking again! You can exit the stage!

Marc Levin can you do a show without one passive aggressive comment against Trump? I used to listen to you on my way home from work! Not any more!

Fast & furious me buckos!

Constant slam of crazy Pelosi and Chuckles! Everytime Obama opens his mouth you jump on it with a slam about his failed terms! Trash the leftist media! Offer plans to trounce their protests, riots and slander! Or present Conservative ideas to Trump cabinet to thwart their strategy!

Prove your love, boys.....or bend over! Go!

[Albion Wilde]

Just to be clear, I was directing my comments about collectivizing language to the guy who was arguing with you, not to you. I had no trouble with your comments. Wish we had a “cc” indicator on this otherwise just-about-perfect forum.

[DoughtyOne]

I understood, and that’s why I said my agreeing was self-serving.

I appreciate the point, and you taking this extra step to make sure I know who you were talking to.

Take care.