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The Week: President Trump is a terrible negotiator
the week ^ | 1 27 2017 | Jeva Lange

Posted on 01/27/2017 11:49:08 AM PST by MarvinStinson

Art of the Deal author and U.S. President Donald Trump is maybe not the negotiator he's chalked up to be. Despite his spokesperson once dubbing him "the best negotiator in the history of the world," Thursday's series of incidents with Mexican president Enrique Peña Nieto were evidence to the contrary, The New Yorker's Ryan Lizza writes.

Mexico is a major trading partner and ally of the U.S., but was alienated Thursday when Trump insisted Mexico would pay for the border wall, Peña Nieto insisted he wouldn't, and Trump responded by tweeting that if that was the case, then maybe the two leaders should cancel their upcoming meeting. Peña Nieto, in essence, said, "Okay, fine."

This depressing episode confirms several of the worst fears about Trump. The first is that he is not a good negotiator. Rather than waiting a week before he issued his executive orders on immigration, Trump signed them at a moment that maximally embarrassed [Secretary of Foreign Affairs Luis] Videgaray, the Mexican official who is the most sympathetic to him. The moves left the unpopular Peña Nieto with no choice but to cancel next week's visit, and poisoned the relationship with one of America's closest allies and our third-largest trading partner.

A Mexican Embassy official noted to Lizza that the diplomats at the White House were also furious at Trump for signing an executive order in his first days as president that called for the construction on the border and expanded deportation laws. "They were like, 'What the f--- are we going to negotiate?'" the official told The New Yorker. "'You've done the job. What are we going to negotiate if you've signed this? What's wrong with you?'"


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: fakenews; fakestreammedia; jakenews; jakestreammedia; mexico; trumo
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To: Jim Robinson

Remember when the Liberals heads exploded, when Reagan walked away from Gorbachev? The screamed “you’ll never get a better deal” or “this was the last chance to avoid nuclear annihilation”. We are still here, the Soviets bent to his will. The same tactics are going on here.


61 posted on 01/27/2017 12:31:57 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: MarvinStinson

Are you suggesting one can infer some sort of pattern here or draw a conclusion?


Ryan Lizza is the Washington correspondent for [the leftwing] New Yorker, and also an on-air contributor for [the leftwing] CNN. Before joining the magazine, in 2007, he was a political correspondent for [the leftwing] New Republic, from 1998 to 2007, and, before that, a correspondent for GQ and a contributing editor at [the leftwing] New York. He has also written for [the leftwing] New York Times, [the leftwing] Washington Monthly, and [the leftwing] Atlantic Monthly. Since 1998, he has covered most of the country’s major political stories, including the last four Presidential campaigns, and has written many political profiles for [the leftwing] New Yorker.


62 posted on 01/27/2017 12:36:04 PM PST by Calif Conservative (rwr and gwb backer)
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To: MarvinStinson

They’re right, let’s send in John Kerry. JOKING!


63 posted on 01/27/2017 12:36:36 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Trump should give Mexico $150 billion.

Then the left would applaud him.


64 posted on 01/27/2017 12:43:59 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: Calif Conservative

You mean that Ryan Lizza is a leftwinger?

I will have to check with my unnamed sources to find out more.

Remember-—Don’t jump to conclusions.


65 posted on 01/27/2017 12:47:00 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: NohSpinZone

Even on CNN, after it was released that Trump and Nieto had talked and the Mexican government released a positive statement about the conversation, a panel of their analysts commented that it is how Trump makes deals. He puts out a bomb, leaves the other side to think about, then negotiates with them when they decide the best thing to do is talk. Most of them admitted it will probably work though it is is not the political norm. They forget how Reagan ended the cold war without a shot through strength.


66 posted on 01/27/2017 12:49:23 PM PST by Rusty0604 (bc)
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To: for-q-clinton

Exactly.


67 posted on 01/27/2017 12:50:28 PM PST by Rusty0604 (bc)
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To: MarvinStinson

The Snowflake that wrote this is 2 years out of school. She attended 3 different colleges to graduate.

She has zero experience and probably had daddy negotiate her apartment lease.

This is the left...


68 posted on 01/27/2017 12:52:00 PM PST by monkeypants (It's a Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: MarvinStinson

We have nothing to gain from that meeting with Mexico. They have everything to gain. Who loses when the meeting is canceled? Us? Hardly.

In the meantime, Mexico is going back to chasing down rats for dinner. Their currency is collapsing.

Who’s the worse player, the one who bluffed or the one who called him on it? always negotiate from a position of strength.


69 posted on 01/27/2017 12:54:05 PM PST by IronJack
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To: MarvinStinson

He has a pretty high bar living up to Obama and John “He served in Vietnam” Kerry’s negotiators.

LOL...NOT!!!


70 posted on 01/27/2017 12:54:27 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: JMS
That "ally" business is just #FakeNews, from #FakeStreamMedia journofraud puppet girl Jeva Lange.

https://twitter.com/Jee_vuh/with_replies

Jeva looks like she's 12 years old. They start 'em lying young these days... 😀

71 posted on 01/27/2017 1:01:56 PM PST by kiryandil (Will Hillary's BrownShirt Media thugs demand that The Deplorables all wear six-pointed Orange Stars?)
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To: MarvinStinson

I suppose Ryan considers the current negotiating situation, with the USA hobbled, with both arms tied behind its back, negotiating against its self interests, and for leftist globalism to be “fair”.

If an open border, drug cartels, illegal immigration, money and jobs sent to Mexico are fair, then I’m okay with President Trump pulling some “unfair” moves.


72 posted on 01/27/2017 1:08:26 PM PST by Rinnwald
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To: MarvinStinson; All
A few minutes ago on Facebook, Donald J Trump President of the United States of America:
Donald J. Trump
· 9 mins ·

Joint Statement on U.S. - Mexico Relations

The United States President Donald J. Trump and Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto spoke by phone this morning for an hour. The call was mutually arranged by their teams.

The two had a productive and constructive call regarding the bilateral relationship between the two countries, the current trade deficit the United States has with Mexico, the importance of the friendship between the two nations, and the need for the two nations to work together to stop drug cartels, drug trafficking and illegal guns and arms sales.

With respect to payment for the border wall, both presidents recognize their clear and very public differences of positions on this issue but have agreed to work these differences out as part of a comprehensive discussion on all aspects of the bilateral relationship.

Both presidents have instructed their teams to continue the dialogue to strengthen this important strategic and economic relationship in a constructive way.


73 posted on 01/27/2017 1:15:48 PM PST by Syncro (Facts is facts)
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To: MarvinStinson
The liberals don't know how to negotiate. Trump is not negotiating yet.

Look at what Obama and Kerry did with Iran. They kept telling the Iranians they could have anything they wanted, just as long as they signed a deal. Any deal. That's not negotiating. That's giving away the store to get Obama and Kerry their "legacy" deal not a nuclear deal.

Look at what Clinton and Albright did with North Korea. Took it on a handshake with North Korea that they were telling the truth about not developing a nuclear weapon. They put no verification process in place to keep them honest. The North Koreans were laughing out loud at how stupid these Americans were.

This writer (big Lefty) knows nothing about the negotiating process. He thinks the negotiations are over and Trump lost. Trump is just setting the table and staking out the territories for negotiations yet to come.

God, I am so thankful Trump won in November.

74 posted on 01/27/2017 1:19:35 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: NohSpinZone

He is an Obama ball-washer. I just looked him up and read a few of his hagiographic articles about Obama.

His opinion is worth less than a bucket of warm spit.


75 posted on 01/27/2017 1:26:25 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: MarvinStinson

Let me explain it for the leftard. Trump said he is building the wall. Congress already passed the legislation to build the wall. Trump just ordered the wall built. Congress is allocating the funds. So dear Mexico, the US has to build a wall because of your actions. How are you going to pay for it ? That is all that needs to be negotiated.


76 posted on 01/27/2017 1:32:14 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
The last guyS seemed to give everything away!

There...fixed it for you.

77 posted on 01/27/2017 1:34:21 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: Jim Robinson

The Week’s idea of negotiation is ....
“You can have anything you want, but that’s my final offer.”


78 posted on 01/27/2017 1:40:02 PM PST by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: MarvinStinson
Negotiations always begin with a position of power and demanding more than you can get so you look magnanimous taking a little less in the final contract but getting what the goal you really needed was.

The only one who really is in trouble at the moment is Mexico. They let their macho culture put one mans ego over the country.

79 posted on 01/27/2017 2:00:00 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: pgkdan

They’ve never remotely been an “ALLY” — libtards are so stupid it hurts.


80 posted on 01/27/2017 2:03:47 PM PST by Enchante (Hoping the Clintonistas are gone from our public life forever!!)
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