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Trump Will Call for a Pentagon Plan to Hit ISIS Harder, Officials Say
NY Times ^

Posted on 01/26/2017 6:23:28 PM PST by springwater13

The White House is drafting a presidential directive that calls on Defense Secretary James N. Mattis to devise plans to more aggressively strike the Islamic State, which could include American artillery on the ground in Syria and Army attack helicopters to support an assault on the group’s capital, Raqqa, officials said.

President Trump, who is to make his first visit to the Pentagon as commander in chief on Friday, will demand that the new options be presented to him within 30 days, the officials said. During the presidential campaign, Mr. Trump repeatedly said that he had a secret plan to defeat the Islamic State, but he also said that he would give his commanders a month to come up with new options.

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To: Cobra64
B2 stealth bombers

Isn't it cheaper and faster to simply run the B-52s?

Even if the goat-rapers can see our bombers coming....what are they going to do about it?

81 posted on 01/27/2017 5:44:04 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: springwater13

Becausentl that’s what you have to do. No pussyfooting around. The only thing these people respect is firepower. They can sense and thrive off weakness in their enemies.

Annihilate them, and don’t worry about Muslims in far off lands think. It’s because they didn’t reign their own people in do we have to resort to this anyway.


82 posted on 01/27/2017 6:18:26 AM PST by longsufferingjetsfan
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To: Lorianne
They do what they can because they can do.

The reason there is a semblance of peace occasionally with a dictator because occasionally someone emerges that does not suffer the instigators.

Play nice, and ruthless ones will take advantage for power and wealth, similar to the dem party here.

Prosecution with extreme prejudice does and will work, has worked every time it has been tried, worldwide.

Hoping to simply contain them in fact gives them the green light to escape their containment and wreak havoc, with minimal consequences.

Severe consequences makes nice virtual walls.

83 posted on 01/27/2017 6:20:40 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: blam

So, would they get drone virgins once destroyed? How does that work exactly?


84 posted on 01/27/2017 6:55:52 AM PST by Moonlighter
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To: Lorianne

Unfortunately their ‘death to America’ intent and actions have already involved us along with the actions of two prior Presidents that only exasperated the issue. I just hope this can now be done with a maximum of foresight and minimum of time, resources and casualties.


85 posted on 01/27/2017 7:03:27 AM PST by Moonlighter
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To: trebb

We do not have to engage them over there.
We will have to defend our own country.

However, mostly they are busy killing other Muslims and causing mayhem in Europe ... and occasionally coming over to the USA to do harm. However we have the means to stop them coming over here for the most part. This is where we should put our efforts.

It won’t be easy because Canada is intent on going the Europe route and letting in many unvetted ‘refugees’. So we’ll need more vigilance on our northern border.

But we need to stay out of the MENA. Those are their problems and have been for CENTURIES.


86 posted on 01/27/2017 7:33:21 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: dp0622

It is not too late.
We don’t need to stay engaged over there.
They are mostly killing each other. Why interfere?


87 posted on 01/27/2017 7:35:48 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
However, mostly they are busy killing other Muslims and causing mayhem in Europe ... and occasionally coming over to the USA to do harm. However we have the means to stop them coming over here for the most part. This is where we should put our efforts.

They are also infiltrating our nation with intent to do harm. The "occasional" meme is only valid until those here start wreaking havoc. Back to the "fight them there or fight them here" adage until we actually secure our borders and then there are a number working on long-range nukes - if we sit back and wait, the result can be devastating.

Obama meddled many places he shouldn't have and helped them build in strength and resolve - in so far as what he did, you are 100% correct - but the upshot is that he helped create a condition that will require us to make some very hard decisions if we are to actually protect the People.

88 posted on 01/27/2017 7:38:10 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: springwater13

Take the oil and then bomb the hell out of them. :-)


89 posted on 01/27/2017 8:27:58 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Lorianne

How about air strikes to help Kurds at least?


90 posted on 01/27/2017 8:51:36 AM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I’m not the expert, but apparently B2s were employed in the first mission under President Trump. I, or the reports could be mistaken.


91 posted on 01/27/2017 11:59:12 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: dp0622

Air strikes would mean cooperation with (taking sides with) Turkey or Syria’s Assad or the Russians who have a deal with Assad. We cannot just invade other country’s airspace without permission ... well we can but we can expect blowback from that ... as we are seeing now.


92 posted on 01/27/2017 6:14:35 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: trebb

We should keep them out of here.
That we can do pretty effectively ... if we have the will to do so. The problem is going to be working with governments like Canada who are lax on who they allow in.


93 posted on 01/27/2017 6:15:48 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

#### Turkey and Syria.

We deal directly with the Russians and we TELL Syria and Turkey what we’re doing.

Work together with the Russian Air Force to crush ISIS and ANY “moderate” group.

Turkey shouldn’t even be in NATO anymore.

I’m sick of stabbing the Kurds in the back to appease Turkey, Iraq or whoever.


94 posted on 01/27/2017 6:27:49 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Lorianne

They are already at war with us, and won’t stop until they are destroyes. Time to finish it.


95 posted on 01/27/2017 6:43:04 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

We cannot destroy them. There are too many of them and they are multiplying faster than we are.


96 posted on 01/27/2017 6:54:02 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: semimojo

Only if you do it with extremely stupid rules of engagement.


97 posted on 01/27/2017 7:02:00 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: dp0622

Neither we nor Russia (or any combination) is going to “crush ISIS”. If we did, another group just like ISIS would arise. There are already dozens of ISIS-like groups in many countries. And this has been going on for CENTURIES. Read the history of the region. One after another of these extremist groups rise up and kill hundreds of thousands, then another group arises and kills them and their followers, and then another group arises ... etc etc.

We know the history. It is documentes Why do we ignore it?

Mostly they are intent on killing other Muslims who they don’t think are islamic enough. If we can keep them contained in their own lands and let them continue to do that like they have done for centuries, they will be mostly content


98 posted on 01/27/2017 7:04:02 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Cobra64

I loved seeing them back in 2002, blowing up the Taliban in the mountains of Afghanistan.

They would unload tons of bombs, blow the hell out of the place, then circle back around and do it again.

Hope to see it again.


99 posted on 01/27/2017 7:50:30 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: semimojo
So what fills the vacuum after we destroy them.

Split it up between Israel and the Kurds?

100 posted on 01/27/2017 7:57:06 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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