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To: G Larry

The teachings of Jesus the Nazarene were simple, yet profound Torah teachings. His conversations reveal a mastery of Pharisaical scholarship drawn fron Beit Hallel as well as Beit Shammai ( the two prevailing schools at that time). He had no hand in the development of Christianity, centuries later which buried him under a mountain of Iconography and outright Roman Idolatry. He was lost to history as the movement migrated to the European, illiterate masses. He began to emerge from the darkness
With the Reformation and its return to the biblical narrative, and the invention of the printing press which put the Scripture within reach of the common man. The long journey out of Catholic Anti-Semitism had begun and an ever sympathetic affection for Torah and Jewry followed. This is why America has been the wonderful haven that it is for Yiddishkeit and the creativity of the Jewish mind. No other nation, in the history of the world has offered men and women so much; the”Blessings of Liberty” that come from G-d Almighty, the G-d of Avraham, Yitzchak and Yaakov. What Christians are finally finding out is that Yeshua (Jesus) was a Tzaddik, a righteous Rabbi whose final command to his Talmidim (disciples) was: “Take this Torah to the whole world and make disciples from every nation!” For this to happen there must be a rapprochement between Judaism and the burgeoning global Torah/Messianic movement. An accommodation for both must be made. Then, at last, the incidental historical scaffolding of man made religion will begin to fall away, and the glory of the Olam Haba (Millenial Kingdom) will be realized.


33 posted on 01/16/2017 7:54:55 AM PST by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees)
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To: Torahman

No offense, but how do you reconcile your post with the reality of the empty tomb?


37 posted on 01/16/2017 8:02:43 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Torahman
He began to emerge from the darkness

According to the ancient Rabbis, Jesus is boiling in a vat of boiling feces, and his mother is a whore. That tends to support the opposite of what you are saying, if the early Rabbis hated the Messiah so much.

Christ was the founder of Christianity, just as Christians have been reporting since the day He was resurrected.

40 posted on 01/16/2017 8:04:12 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Torahman

“He had no hand in the development of Christianity”

Oh, really?
So, you’re unfamiliar with the following:

Matt 16:17-19, Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven. Whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Then he strictly ordered his disciples to tell no one that he was the Messiah.

In both the Old and New Testaments the Church is often spoken of under the metaphor of God’s house (Numbers 12:7 ; Jeremiah 12:7 ; Hosea 8:1 ; 9:15 ; 1 Corinthians 3:9-17 , Ephesians 2:20-2 ; 1 Timothy 3:5 ; Hebrews 3:5 ; 1 Peter 2:5 ).

The promise acquires additional solemnity when we remember that both Old Testament prophecy (Isaiah 28:16) and Christ’s own words (Matthew 7:24) had attributed this office of foundation of the Church to Himself. He is therefore assigning to Peter, of course in a secondary degree, a prerogative which is His own, and thereby associating the Apostle with Himself in an altogether singular manner. “And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven.” In the following verse (Matthew 16:19) He promises to bestow on Peter the keys of the kingdom of heaven.

John 21:15-19, When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Feed my lambs.” He then said to him a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Tend my sheep.” He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, “Do you love me?” and he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, Feed my sheep. Amen, amen, I say to you, when you were younger, you used to dress yourself and go where you wanted; but when you grow old, you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go.” He said this signifying by what kind of death he would glorify God. And when he had said this, he said to him, “Follow me.”

As for the notion Christianity wasn’t developed for centuries you may want to read the Epistles of Paul, and the writings of his contemporary Clement, Ignatius, Polycarp, Hermes, followed by John Chrysostom, Cyril, etc.


67 posted on 01/16/2017 9:18:37 AM PST by G Larry (Pretending Podesta's e-mail are "The American Election System" is nonsense.)
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