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Hillary’s Pardon – Will He or Won’t He? CNN Indicators Point to “YES”
Conservative Treehouse ^ | January 13, 2017 | Sundance

Posted on 01/13/2017 12:34:40 AM PST by detective

Will President Obama pardon Hillary Clinton before he leaves office?  A question curiously non-discussed in the media.

However, when you accept that CNN’s broadcasted narratives, ie. the preferred positions of the U.S. Department of State, are generally good predictors of the political forecast, all signs point to yes.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: clinton; obama; pardon; sundance
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To: Gay State Conservative

Nixon was charged with obstruction of justice, abuse of authority and defiance of Committee subpoenas. The Beast hasn’t been FORMALLY accused or charged with ANYTHING. BO better hurry up and bring some federal charges if he wants to pardon her.


101 posted on 01/13/2017 4:33:14 AM PST by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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To: Ray76

“Ford committed an error and we should not be bound by it”

By comparison, Nixon was busting open gumball machines and stealing loose change.


102 posted on 01/13/2017 4:37:09 AM PST by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its egg roll.)
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To: detective
I do not see how Obama can pardon Hillary since she has not been convicted of a Federal crime.

A presidential pardon is a right granted to the President of the United States by the U.S. Constitution to forgive a person for a crime, or to excuse a person convicted of a crime from punishment.

The president’s power to pardon is granted by Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution, which provides:  “The President … shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”

Define - A pardon is a government decision to allow a person who has been convicted of a crime to be free and absolved of that conviction, as if never convicted.

Obama may give a Reprieve (cancel or postpone the punishment).

103 posted on 01/13/2017 4:47:57 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: All

I’m no law expert (but judging by many the actions of many of our Senators, Reps. and Judges neither are they), but I don’t think ANYONE other than God has the power to pardon crimes that haven’t yet been charged.


104 posted on 01/13/2017 4:48:06 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: detective

No doubt legions of Hillary cronies WANT Obama to pardon her, to take the air out of appointing a Special Prosecutor. Special Prosecutors usually rack up a lot of convictions for crooks surrounding the Big Fish, as a by-product and method for forcing piglets to squeal. Thousands of State Dept cronies, DNC operatives, Clinton Foundation grafters, dirty-tricksters, foreign agents, corrupted media stooges, etc., would derive a major personal benefit from a Hillary pardon. Small wonder they are all abuzz framing necessary narratives and such. My hunch: they’ll be disappointed, unless Obama fears the backwash will get on HIM. I think he despises Hillary.


105 posted on 01/13/2017 4:53:01 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: detective

Pardoning her would pretty much knock the Clintons out of positions of control in the Party.


106 posted on 01/13/2017 4:54:01 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Gene Eric

“A pardon is not immunity.”

I believe what a pardon means is any crimes covered by the pardon can not be prosecuted by the federal government. However, the Clinton Foundation violated dozens of laws and it can probably be sued by every state where it has conducted business and by countries such as Haiti. In Haiti a huge chunk of the US taxpayers dollars that were funneled through the Clinton Foundation (no conflict there) were syphoned to Foundation expenses. (The funds went first to the UN and after Hillary paid the UN a visit, they went into the Clinton Foundation.)

The IRS can get involved. Also, individuals can sue in civil court because Hillary’s acceptance of the pardon is, by established court opinion, an admission of guilt.

A pardon is a double-edged sword and it cuts both ways. She will not skate free.


107 posted on 01/13/2017 4:55:19 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Oberon

Nixon was not indicted for anything. Nixon was pardoned by Ford.


108 posted on 01/13/2017 4:56:00 AM PST by arthurus
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To: MagnoliaB
Nixon was charged with obstruction of justice, abuse of authority and defiance of Committee subpoenas...

I'm not a lawyer but IIRC Nixon was *accused* of *various* crimes by *many* individuals/bodies but he was never formally *charged* with a crime.IIRC he was never officially indicted by a grand jury *or* formally charged with a crime by a Federal prosecutor.

But I surely could be wrong on this.

109 posted on 01/13/2017 4:58:12 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: detective

IF she IS charged with a criminal act you can bet she would enter a Alford Plea as a last resort.


110 posted on 01/13/2017 5:00:20 AM PST by RetSignman
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To: imardmd1

They’re probably crafting the text right now to cover “crimes committed and those yet to be committed”.


111 posted on 01/13/2017 5:09:27 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: jazminerose

Even if he tries to pardon her, Judge Napolitano said that there would still be recourse, but I can’t recall exactly what else she could still be prosecuted for.

I think it was Obama could pardon for the Federal crimes, but States could still prosecute related to the Foundation and the info on Weiner’s laptop, and also Foreign Governments could extradite her for prosecution.


112 posted on 01/13/2017 5:11:35 AM PST by greeneyes
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To: detective

I just hope Hillary lives long enough to see the first woman president get elected eight years from now ... Ivanka Trump!


113 posted on 01/13/2017 5:12:18 AM PST by zencycler
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To: taildragger

Impeached and pardoned nice way to end the Clinton legacy. I don’t think he does it though


114 posted on 01/13/2017 5:13:42 AM PST by datricker ( Free Julian Assange its modern day Common Sense - HRC is free, he confined to the ladies room wha!)
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To: MagnoliaB
You are the one being obtuse. Ford's action discards your contention that a person needs to be first charged with something to receive a pardon.

Ford's action is something I do not agree with by the way. But he did it anyway.

The Constitution also says you need to be a naturalized citizen to be president (with both parents as citizens as well). But we got Barack Obama anyhow, when it is pretty obvious to me he did not meet the requirements. Or we would not have all this secrecy surrounding his early life. If it were otherwise, the Democrats would have tripped over themselves to provide the documentation that would made those questioning it look stupid (including Trump himself).

115 posted on 01/13/2017 5:15:44 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: detective

Pardon for what? I thought she didn’t do anything wrong. Did she lie?


116 posted on 01/13/2017 5:18:12 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else.)
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To: detective

How can he provide a pardon to her unless it covers every conceivable facet of her employment. He might pardon her regarding the emails, but how do you pardon someone from theft aka from the Clinton Foundation?


117 posted on 01/13/2017 5:20:55 AM PST by nikos1121 (I would love to see Rudy in charge of the FBI)
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To: imardmd1

You are just wrong. Ford pardoned Nixon before any formal charges had been filed. Carter pardoned the draft dodgers before any charges had been filed. How would Obama pardoning Clinton be any different?


118 posted on 01/13/2017 5:26:09 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: pepsionice

Yep


119 posted on 01/13/2017 5:31:55 AM PST by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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To: Maverick68

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/71/333

... [Pardon] extends to every [Federal] offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency or after conviction and judgment.

This power of the President is not subject to legislative control. Congress can neither limit the effect of his pardon nor exclude from its exercise any class of offenders...


120 posted on 01/13/2017 5:44:29 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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