HELL NO!!! they are simply voting their pocket book and NOT because they want to be true Americans screw that
Posted on 01/02/2017 10:51:02 AM PST by Olog-hai
Puerto Rico’s new governor was sworn in Monday, promising an immediate push for statehood in a territory facing a deep economic crisis.
Gov. Ricardo Rossello, 37, proposed several measures aimed at alleviating the crisis shortly after he was sworn in at midnight. Among them is a proposal to hold a referendum that would ask voters whether they prefer statehood or independence. Many have argued that Puerto Rico’s political status has contributed to its decade-long crisis that has prompted more than 200,000 people to flee to the U.S. mainland in recent years.
“The United States cannot pretend to be a model of democracy for the world while it discriminates against 3.5 million of its citizens in Puerto Rico, depriving them of their right to political, social and economic equality under the U.S. flag,” Rossello said in his inaugural speech, delivered in Spanish. “There is no way to overcome Puerto Rico’s crisis given its colonial condition.” …
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Push all you want senior but it ain’t happening. Now go sit down and try to solve real problems like paying your bills and putting people to work.
You cannot revoke a person’s US citizenship simply because the territory where they live is no longer part of the United States.
The best example are US citizens born in the Panama Canal Zone.
When the Canal Zone was turned over the Panama, the US citizens living in the Canal Zone Did Not Lose their US citizenship.
Furthermore, the children born to US citizens born in the Panama Canal Zone are also US citizens and their children, the grandchildren, great-grandchildren and so on will be US citizens.
That is why John McCain who was born in the Panama Canal Zone , is still a US citizen.
Even if Puerto Rico were to become independent, Puerto Ricans, unless they renounce their US citzenship, would still be US citizens.
I conceded the point on revoking citizenship several posts ago. My point is that FUTURE generations would not be citizens just as those born in the Panama Canal zone which is no longer US territory are not citizens. Should Puerto Rico become independent then they would be Puerto Rican citizens.
If a person is born in the Canal Zone today and their parents are US citizens by virtue of being born in the Panama Canal Zone, that baby is a US citizen.
When that baby has a baby, that baby will be a US citizen by virtue of their parent being a US citizen.
You cannot tell a person, “Hey, we realize that your parents were American citizens at the time of your birth, but you cannot be an American citizen.”
Technically, wouldn't every citizen of North and South American countries be "Americans"?
We spent all our money and now we’re broke and it’s all some white guy’s fault!
El Nopo.
You are leaving out the residency requirements. For example, a child born outside the USA (such as in the former Canal Zone) to a US citizen mother is not a citizen unless the mother resided in the USA for a certain amount of time prior to the birth. There are different requirements depending upon whether citizenship is derived from the mother, the father or both parents. Over time, as a territory is no longer part of the USA, the chances are high that even US citizen parents will not meet these requirements such that their children will not be citizens.
The parental presence requirements are listed here:
https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents
HELL NO!!! they are simply voting their pocket book and NOT because they want to be true Americans screw that
You are positing that Puerto Rican independence will still carry US Citizenship indefinitely. I am saying the one of the consequences of Puerto Rican independence will be citizenship in the independent country of Puerto Rico. I am proposing that they would have to choose citizenship at that time but at some point they would be an independent country and their status finally determined.
By your reasoning, I guess millions upon millions of Americans are British citizens, since we must have kept our British citizenship generation after generation even after becoming an independent nation? It’s bizarre to suggest that once a new country becomes independent all it’s people still retain the citizenship of the country they broke away from. When has that happened in history? That’s not even close to the norm. Your novel concept of citizenship negates the entire idea of independence.
This seems to be something you are very passionate about, but do you really think most conservatives want two more Democratic Senators, making it harder for us to keep the Senate, and more electoral votes for the Dems for president (Puerto Ricans here in the US usually vote 80% or more for the Dems after all)? Why make a left-leaning, mostly impoverished, Spanish-speaking Caribbean island a full-fledged American state?
The US should never have become an imperialist country, and we should have given a nation of people as different from ours as Puerto Rico its independence when we gave Cuba its freedom. We get no benefit from Puerto Rico, and we had no right to take it over permanently in the first place. We didn’t settle it and we didn’t really build it up; we only took it to participate in the European imperialist game of that era and it’s caused us needless problems.
“Puerto Ricans are Americans”
Their status can be revoked at any time by Congress.
The signature of the President is not required for the approval by the Congress of an application for Statehood. The Congress has exclusive power in this regard, Statehood can not be Vetoed...
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Wow. That’s incredibly bad news
According to Obama, we already have 57 states. Where do you think we could fit another star on Old Glory?
“By your reasoning, I guess millions upon millions of Americans are British citizens, since we must have kept our British citizenship generation after generation even after becoming an independent nation?”
No one would reason that citizenship laws in England in 1776 are the same as the citizenship laws in the USA in 2017.
However, in the United States, people that are born in the United States are citizens and those born to US citizens overseas are US citizens.
“It’s bizarre to suggest that once a new country becomes independent all it’s people still retain the citizenship of the country they broke away from. When has that happened in history?:
The Philippines in 1946.
The Panama Canal Zone 1979.
If you told Puerto Ricans that their US Citizenship would be taken away, there’d be nobody left on the island.
“If you told Puerto Ricans that their US Citizenship would be taken away, there’d be nobody left on the island.”
Exactly.
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