Posted on 01/01/2017 3:57:26 PM PST by Kaslin
The presidents move to punish Russia has scrambled partisan lines.
What is a bewildered citizen to make of the sanctions that President Obama levied on Russian officials and the Russian government on Thursday? The confusion starts with the news coverage. The Associated Press, for example, blares that President Barack Obama has slapped harsh sanctions on the Russian intelligence services. Meanwhile the former head of the CIAs Russia operations tells The New York Times, I think these sanctions are pretty weak. Its more perhaps symbolic. Some sloppy reports even suggested, wrongly, that Russian agents had interfered with vote counts or voting machines.
Trying to follow partisan cues wont help either, asin what is emerging as a hallmark of the Donald Trump erathe traditional alliances on foreign policy within and between the parties are scrambled and broken. Across party lines, various voices seem unable to decide whether to blame Russia for hacking that intelligence officials say was intended to interfere with the 2016 election, likely to aid Trump, nor on how to react appropriately to that hacking.
The president-elect himself issued a nebulous statement Thursday afternoon, which was evidently a response to Obamas sanctions, though he did not make any explicit connection. Its time for our country to move on to bigger and better things, Trump said. Nevertheless, in the interest of our country and its great people, I will meet with leaders of the intelligence community next week in order to be updated on the facts of this situation.
Like many Trump statements, this one raises as many questions as it answers. If its time to move on, why bother meeting? If its important, why has he waited so long? Why has he been declining so many intelligence briefings? Given that Trump has been briefed on the hacks, what might he hear that would induce him to change his mind?
On Friday, Trump tweeted more praise for Putin, apparently lauding him for not immediately retaliating after the sanctions, though his wording was unclear.
Great move on delay (by V. Putin) - I always knew he was very smart! Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 30, 2016
In any event, it is an example of the president-elect supporting a foreign autocrat over the U.S. governmentan example of the reality that my colleague Uri Friedman identified last week, in which there are effectively dueling American presidents.
The reactions among Trumps inner circle remain splintered too. Kellyanne Conway, a senior adviser, dismissed the sanctions as largely symbolic, and said that Russian intelligence did not keep assets in the United States, a judgment that one national-security reporter openly mocked. (She at least may have the excuse of not being briefed, unlike her boss.)
On the other hand, John Bolton, whose name seems to have sunk somewhat in the sweepstakes for a Trump State Department appointment, who was seen just a couple weeks ago complaining that the intelligence was so shaky that the attack could well have been a false-flag operation, now says that Obama should have done much more to make the Russians feel the pain.
The Heritage Foundation, the conservative institution that has largely appended itself to the Trump team, produced a short video charging that Obama had invited the hacking by being too lenient with Russia:
Vladimir Putin respects two things: strength and consistency In the last eight years, President Obama has shown neither. pic.twitter.com/dPv9h7NeUO Heritage Foundation (@Heritage) December 30, 2016
Its time to deal with Russia from a position of strength, the video concludes. Taking a similar position is Jack Kingston, a former U.S. representative and current Trump adviser, who tweeted, Putin outplays Obama again. Obama embarrassing himself on the way out the door.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell also portrayed Obamas sanctions as too little and too late. Sanctions against the Russian intelligence services are a good initial step, however late in coming," he said in a statement. "As the next Congress reviews Russian actions against networks associated with the U.S. election, we must also work to ensure that any attack against the United States is met with an overwhelming response. (McConnell has been attempting a difficult dancewith one hand, pushing back on demands for a special committee to investigate the hack, while using the other to insist that despite what Trump says, the intelligence community is reliable.)
Most Republican members of Congress seem to be in McConnells general vicinity, and worried about the threat of foreign powers interfering with electoral processes. This creates a potential collision between them and the Trump administration early on, despite the best efforts of people like McConnell to build unity. After all, expressing concern over hacking and asking for an inquiry is diametrically opposed to Trumps view that it probably wasnt the Russians, and even if it was, its time to move on.
Some conservatives have spent the last eight years complaining that Obama has been too accommodating of Russia. But the reactions from Heritage, Bolton, McConnell, and others carry the implication that Trump will take a harder line. To call that expectation unsupported would be an understatement. The president-elect spent the presidential campaign promising friendlier relations with Russia; he suggested he would recognize the illegal annexation of Crimea; he nominated a vocal critic of sanctions on the Kremlin as a secretary of state; and so on.
Then theres Representative Trent Franks, an Arizona Republican, who argues that maybe Russia is responsible, and maybe its notbut that if it is, thats not such a bad thing. If Russia succeeded in giving the American people information that was accurate, then they merely did what the media should have done, Franks said on MSNBC Thursday. (He is not the only person to make this case.) It doesnt take an advanced degree to see the problems with this statement. One can defend the presss decision to cover the hacked material, and even celebrate the effects of the hacked material, without inviting foreign powers to hack into the emails of political leaders (or those of the nations top diplomat, as Trump did during the campaign).
Obama is indeed tardy to the role of hawk in Russo-American relations. But on the left, particularly, the farther left, theres concern that he is saber-rattling. Glenn Greenwald points out that theres a long history of American intelligence misleading both the public and elected officials, though Greenwald also believes the hacks should be fully investigated. The skepticism of intelligence sourcing is well-taken, though one question that looms over the debate is precisely what evidence would convince a doubter like Trump of Russian involvement, short of video footage of Putin himself writing malware. Theres growing consensus that evidence points to Russian actors in the hacks, although there is less public proof that they were intended to aid Trump. In any case, theres no good argument to make against asking for stronger evidence, even if Trumps allies keep trying to make one.
Not every critique is quite so carefully thought out:
For those who criticize WikiLeaks for not publishing RNC emails or more Putin docs: why don't you just publish them yourselves? Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 29, 2016
This rather seems to be begging the question; if WikiLeaks did as alleged receive the DNC documents thanks to Russian state actors, then it has a unique source. Any news organization able to get its hands on Putin docs or RNC emails would almost certainly publish them. (Please! Send them here!)
The Nation, which has in recent years tended to view any criticism of Russiaincluding of its expansionist impulsesas a resurgence of McCarthyism, sees in this case yet another sign that theres a new Cold War brewing. The dangers of nuclear war, and the malign effects on political discourse within the United States, are no less horrifying than they were 50 years ago. The specter of the U.S. expelling Russian officials as personae non grata on Thursday was straight out of the Cold War playbook of action and reaction, even if some commentators seemed to be unaware of the old spy-game ritual of allowing some suspected spies to stay in the country just so there was someone to throw out in a crisis.
But the rejection of any criticism of Russia has serious shortcomings. Labeling critiques of Putins Russia as nothing more than McCarthyism will come as little consolation to Russian dissidents being crushed by Putin. And what if its proven that Russia did hack to interfere with the election? Should these fears paralyze the United States and prevent it from responding?
Meanwhile, an entirely different faction on the left is arguing that Trump is all but (or maybe simply is) a bought-and-paid-for Kremlin agent.
The only person who seems to be enjoying all of this is Putin. If he did in fact direct the hacks in an attempt to help Trump, then its a huge win: Trump pulled off the upset, and now he gets a friendly leader in Washington. If he directed the hacks in order to create chaos among American policymakers, then he gets that too. And even if Russia was totally uninvolved, it benefits from all of these dynamics, and will still have a friendly leader in the White House come January 20. The disorder in Washington has given Putin the opportunity to pose as the serene statesman, regarding the scene with equanimity.
Putin announced that he would not expel any American diplomats, despite the public recommendation of Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. (This seems possibly choreographed.) He even invited the children of American diplomats to a bash at the Kremlin. Its a well-executed troll.
Not for some time has Putin had such an opportunity to gloat. Hes also just managed to strike a cease-fire deal in Syria, at least as long as it holds. But Russia remains much diminished from its Cold War peak. Its economy is in shambles, a state of affairs likely to persist even if Trump removes sanctions, especially if the price of oil remains low.
Jeet Heer is not the first to point out (despite what he seems to believe) that the latest dust-up has a pedigree. Russia remains angry about U.S. moves to expand NATO into Eastern Europe in the years after the Soviet Union, and for its support of pro-democracy activists in Russia and other former Soviet republics, which it regards as financing efforts to overthrow governments. But successive U.S. presidents have entered office seeking better relations with the Kremlin. In June of 2001, George W. Bush met with the then-fresh Russian president and infamously declared, I looked the man in the eye. I found him very straight-forward and trustworthyI was able to get a sense of his soul. But Bush came to infuriate Putin with American support of the color revolutions in Eastern Europe in the mid-2000s, and at the very end of Bushs term, Putin spited him by seizing Georgian territories.
Obama entered office promising better relations than his predecessor. He infamously dispatched then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to present a reset button to Lavrov. That effort came to naught, too, with Putin seizing Crimea, intervening on behalf of Bashar al-Assad in Syria, and allegedly overseeing hacks to interfere with the election. Trump now says he is the one to shepherd closer relations. One possible takeaway from this sequence is not that the United States and Russia are on the brink of a new Cold War, but rather than the old one never really ended.
The Pox to McCain and Graham
It is theater from a drama queen. Made you look though, didn’t he?
Of course what else
No evidence has been released to even suggest a hack occurred. If they had proof to harm trump it would have been leaked or released by now. They have nothing.
If they are as worthless as 0bama's so-called cyber-security report then the only reason to hear them would be to find out who to fire.
If someone was able to hack the RNC emails, I;m betting all it would reveal is the collusion against Trump. So he wins there too,
“”What is a bewildered citizen to make of the sanctions that President Obama levied on Russian officials and the Russian government on Thursday?””
We stopped being bewildered after he’d been in office a few months - like June 2009 for his Cairo speech. This is par for the course for that jerk and no surprise to us.
This narrative has got to stop, leaking emails is not the same thing as hacking an election.... publishing truth and facts is not harmful to our nation, neither Hillary or the DNC have denied the content of the emails. But the Democrats are all about projection, so if we want to know who the Russians really helped win an election, maybe we should start investigating who funded obama and how did he win two terms ?
Otherwise pure BS
The Left is downright schizophrenic.
One day they tell us nothing Hillary has ever did was wrong.
The next day they tell us Russia tossed the election to Trump by revealing things that Clinton has done.
If they weren’t wrong, how did the release of the information move public opinion away from Clinton?
What’s more, all the revelations were written by Clinton and Podesta’s own hands. Nobody was able to spin it.
Despite this, the reporting of their own statements in their eMails, became “fake news”.
Further, nobody has provided proof that Russia was behind the hacking and releases of information.
The man that has been blamed for releasing the information has said Russia had nothing to do with gathering it.
Add to the mix the very agencies that made the claims that Russia did this, are now bickering internally and with each other about whether it is true that Russia was involved at all.
Obama is now kicking foreign nationals out of our nation, and intimates he isn’t done yet.
Then John McCain makes a public statement that we must commit an “act of war” against Russia, and level severe sanctions to boot.
Well meaning Republicans are so gobsmacked over this, they are joining the McCain “circle of subterfuge and chaos” to back his play in some way.
By rights this would be a complex multi-layered propagandist conspiracy for study at our major universities, but we don’t have any top level universities anymore who will be able to appropriately see all this for what it is.
What should be studied for hundreds of years, so it is never allowed to happen again, will instead be studied as a model for criminals everywhere.
How low does it go? How pervasive is it?
Guy runs a red light into oncoming traffic. It’s an open and shut case right. A vehicle impacts his car, and insurance companies are notified.
Six months later my insurance company is still in litigation because the guy claimed I side-swiped him.
Never admit guilt. Always spin. Lie if you have to. Blame anyone or thing you can, but don’t take responsibility.
That’s what our society is becoming, top to bottom.
Bill Clinton and his political machine have done immeasurable harm to this nation since 1992.
Illegal immigration is a part of it. The people who broke our laws are innocent. Instituting the penalties that are prescribed for such things, that is viewed as the real crime by many folks.
These are examples of tearing the nation apart for personal gain.
The Left is dead set on destroying this nation, and if Trump is blocked in his agenda, they will have succeeded.
Obama “the patriot” is protecting America from Russian nationalism like mafia protects a business.
Of course, that he worships a satanist religion which is in agreement in giving a drug dealer’s helping hand to drug addicts lost in the streets so as to own them for hit jobs, flies above the head of the media which fails to see that while entities like Russia or IsIs may be at odds with America, they are in full agreement as to the pimp methods of doing business in the world
Pretty much. Like the evicted deadbeat who spray paints the walls and blows up the toilets with M80s.
So sad that Russian propaganda offers more accurate commentary than the NY Times and WaPo.
Consider, that a Soviet Defector has told us that the compound at Glen Cove is used for Signal Intelligence. But Obama didn’t close that one. If I had been aware of this since the 80s, Obama should have known. But he didn’t order this closed. Therefore it means that he’s not serious about this. It’s all for show.
That explains Putins response.
The only “hacks” in this case are the people surrounding HRC and Barack Obama.
Not even OBama knows.
Political move for local consumption. Meant to add meat to the Trump cheated meme.
They were designed to turn republicans against Trumps nominations. McCain and Graham are already fighting Trumps picks.
Shouldn’t be an issue with a cabinet full of Goldman and Exxon types. The Chamber will be going to bat for them and will deploy heavy lobbying muscle. There will be a beltway theater show in the Senate but I don’t expect any problems getting Trump’s cabinet confirmed.
or maybe a Pterodactyl...
DMTA.
:D
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