Posted on 12/23/2016 1:46:31 PM PST by dirtboy
HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) - Frustrated after seeing another candidate secure the presidency without winning the national popular vote, mostly Democratic lawmakers in several capitols want their states to join a 10-year-old movement to work around the Electoral College.
In states including Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Ohio and New Mexico, legislators have said they plan to introduce legislation that would require their state's Electoral College voters cast ballots for the presidential candidate who earns the most votes nationwide, regardless of the statewide results.
"Every vote in this country should have equal weight. The Electoral College is a relic of a bygone era, and we need to change this system," said Connecticut state Sen. Mae Flexer, who filed a bill with several fellow Democrats requiring Connecticut to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.
Since 2006, 11 states have signed onto the compact, which require their Electoral College voters to cast ballots for the national popular vote winner. In theory it would take effect once it involves states representing at least 270 electoral votes, the threshold to win the presidency.
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Riiggtt. I can just see the electors of Connecticut voting for popular-vote-winner Trump in 2020...NOT!
Just tell commiefornica they can opt out of the next election!
And then as an encore, show us how you can flop down on the couch as though dead. We’ll video you, dear.
LOL
> IIRC this consortium is unconstitutional unless it gets Congressional approval.
I disagree. Congressional approval is irrelevant. The Constitution gives *sole* control of the state electors to the State’s Legislatures. Thus, they would have to approve the compact.
I think they do these things to try to irritate conservatives’ (and centrists’) hair on fire. They know it has the proverbial snowball’s chance. They know they will never remake the rules of the whole house that way, just by getting the support of the dog and the cat. But they hope to hell that they will.
Humoring them seems more and more to me the way to handle it. Then they certainly can’t accuse us of being grim stuffies.
And when the Trumpian USSC slaps it down... it will do so quoting some apt nursery rhyme.
Those living in those states, whose votes are cancelled by their unConstitutional law, would have grounds for a lawsuit, IMO. Talk about disenfranchisement!!!
The electoral college proved its worth to me by preventing California from stealing the election with illegal votes.
And then, when they flop down on their little beds, all tired out, we can tell them it’s not all that bad after all. Can they imagine the number of recounting precincts that they’d have to pester for their dog and cat votes, if it was all done as the sum of popular votes and they didn’t like the answer?
...Legislation that would require their state’s Electoral College voters cast ballots for the presidential candidate who earns the most votes nationwide, regardless of the statewide results....
They are counting on the Los Angeles County vote, but They fail to understand that this sword has two edges.
And, really, it isn’t fair, even to their candidate, if everything were Calvinball. Because how would that candidate know what to try to maximize?
If Donald Trump had to get more popular votes, I don’t think we would have seen him wiped out. He’d have been working the deeper red states, like Texas and the deep South, harder, since putting it over the line isn’t what would count — rather, what would count is how many national votes he got. The result: rust belt states, in which he eked out small margins, would have gotten a lesser consideration, and might suffer more in his follow-up.
Any lefties in California have got to realize, at least dimly, that this is a bad idea.
Trump played the Electoral College game because it was there.
If this had been a popular vote game, he would have played it differently. He’d probably have gone after every single redneck in the south, leaving iffier regions out in the cold.
might not backfire too- depends on the mood of the country- which is very fickle to say the least- at the time- Dems have won 5 of the last 6 elections’ popular votes- however, for decades- from 56 to 1980 something I believe- republicans won the popular vote-
IF trump turns this ocutnry back around-and wins the affections of the African Americans in inner cities- by rebuilding and helping their communities- the country could very well shift republican strongly again and we could dominate for another 30 or so years-
Needs enough joining States to equal at least 270 electoral votes and Constitutionally required Congressional consent (see Article I, Section 10, Clause 3). Not going to happen. The Electoral College is here to stay, especially in 2020.
Only New York City and LA county would rule us- sort like the douche we have now!
I don't know if you're a lawyer but I *certainly* am not.I base my previous comment on what I read once,which said that certain types agreements between states are specifically forbidden by the Constitution unless "approved" by Congress.What I read indicated that this agreement absolutely qualifies as being forbidden.
Of course I could have misunderstood what I read.It's just as possible that what I read was incorrect.
Assuming that *neither* of us are lawyers I wonder if one should be weighing in on this particular issue.
They'll cool down and realize the popular vote is very misleading. Conservative principles and voter laws, and self deportations will reduce the ridiculous vote total in California and elsewhere. the RNC will then attempt to reestablish the party in California where there were VIRTUALLY NO REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT !
That doesn't generate much Republican voter turnout. /s
Is Connecticut state Sen. Mae Flexer an idiot, or is Connecticut state Sen. Mae Flexer just an idiot?
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