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The US plans to ban smoking in public housing — but will it work?
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/17/13987432/smoking-ban-public-housing-urban-development-health ^ | Dec 17, 2016 | Alessandra Potenza

Posted on 12/18/2016 5:13:06 PM PST by Drango

April Simpson has been living in the Queensbridge Houses, a public housing development in Queens, New York, her whole life. “From day one. I was born here,” she says, proudly.

When she walks among the iconic six-story, red-brick buildings, passersby say hi to her and kiss her on the cheek. Everyone seems to know her. Simpson, a charismatic 54-year-old with buzzed short hair and a broad smile, is the Queensbridge tenants’ association president. She’s also a smoker. But come 2017, under a new federal rule, she won’t be allowed to light up one of her Newport cigarettes inside the housing development where she lives.

Simpson is in favor of the smoking ban, but she also thinks it will be “extremely hard” to enforce. “You just can’t say, ‘You can’t smoke anymore’ to a person who’s been smoking for 20 years or even 10 years,” she says. “It’s like putting a lollipop in front of child and saying, ‘You can’t have it’ without giving them alternatives.”

April Simpson, a resident of the Queensbridge Houses, is trying to quit smoking It’s not clear yet what those alternatives will be. The nationwide smoking ban was announced last month by the US Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). It will go into effect starting in the new year, but local housing authorities will have a year and a half to implement smoke-free policies. For now, public housing agencies around the country are still trying to figure out how to enforce the ban, including how to punish violators.

The reasons for the ban, which will affect more than 940,000 households, are obvious: smoking increases the risks of stroke, heart disease, and lung cancer, as well as other types of cancers almost anywhere in your body. Second-hand smoke can be just as bad, especially for children, who get exposed to higher risks of asthma attacks, respiratory infections, and ear infections. But smoking doesn’t stop at the doorway: studies have shown that children who live in smoke-free apartments with neighbors who smoke get exposed to tobacco chemicals. The US Surgeon General also concluded in 2006 that “separating smokers from nonsmokers, cleaning the air, and ventilating buildings cannot eliminate exposure to secondhand smoke.” The only way to do it is by banning indoor smoking altogether. (Smoking indoor also increases the risk of fires, and it costs housing authorities millions of dollars in repairs, renovations, and property damage.)

"Every child deserves to grow up in a safe, healthy home free from harmful second-hand cigarette smoke," HUD Secretary Julián Castro said when the ban was announced. "HUD's smoke-free rule is a reflection of our commitment to using housing as a platform to create healthy communities."

The public housing development Queensbridge Houses in Queens, New York, is the city’s largest Many public housing residents are in favor of the ban. During a period of public comment, the HUD received more than a 1,000 letters from authorities and tenants. Many of them applauded the smoke-free policy for promoting healthier environments in public housing. “If they want to smoke it is their business, but I do not want smoke/smell their cigarettes,” Andreza Campbell, a 40-year-old resident of Ravenswood, another public housing development in Queens, New York, wrote in an email to The Verge. “I hate cigarettes because it makes me have crises of sinusitis.”

But not everyone is on board. Some see the smoking ban as an overreach on the government’s part. “It is an infringement of the peoples [sic] civil liberties,” one public housing resident in Bay City, Michigan, wrote in a letter to the HUD. “What about the tenants who are wheelchair bound. Is government to tell them they cannot smoke in their own house? That is clearly discrimination.”

The rule prohibits residents from smoking inside their apartments, in hallways and other indoor public areas, as well as outdoors within 25 feet of housing and office buildings. It covers cigarettes, cigars, pipes, and hookahs, but not electronic cigarettes. That’s because research on e-cigs “lacks clear consensus” on health effects, and there’s little evidence that e-cigs increase the risks of fire, a HUD spokesperson wrote in an email to The Verge.

Since 2009, the HUD has been encouraging public housing agencies to go smoke-free. And some housing developments have already chosen to ban smoking. They provide a model of how the nationwide smoking ban could be enforced. In Miami-Dade County, Florida, for example, where some of the privately owned public housing units ban smoking, violators get two warnings and possibly a fine of up to $50, says Michael Liu, the director of the Miami-Dade County Public Housing and Community Development Department. The third time they’re caught, they get a more formal notice that could lead to eviction if the tenant keeps smoking. However, no one has ever been evicted due to the smoking ban, Liu says, and residents seem to comply without problems. “Our policy is very forgiving,” Liu says.

“WHAT’S GOING TO BE THE REPRIMAND?” In San Francisco, where smoking leases began to be phased out in 2010, tenants who smoke are sent a warning letter. But there’s no one-size-fits-all punishment — instead, violators are dealt with individually, says Rose Marie Dennis, a public information officer at the San Francisco Housing Authority. And tenants have responded well to the smoke-free policies, she says.

At Queensbridge Houses, in New York, Simpson fears implementing the ban won’t be as easy. The New York City Housing Authority (NYCHA) — the largest housing agency in the US with more than 400,000 residents — already prohibits smoking in the buildings’ hallways and common areas. But residents smoke indoors anyway, especially when it’s cold out, and the smoke-free policies aren’t enforced, Simpson says. Big signs inside every Queensbridge building say that violators could receive “penalties” and even be evicted. “What’s going to be the reprimand?” Simpson says. “If you get caught smoking in your apartment, your lease is going to be terminated and you’re gonna be put out into the street over a cigarette?”

The HUD says that’s not how the ban should be enforced. “The last thing that we want are evictions,” a HUD spokesperson wrote in an email to The Verge. “We encourage [public housing authorities] to work with residents so it doesn’t get to that point.”

A sign inside each building at Queensbridge Houses says residents can’t smoke in common areas — subject to penalties or eviction Alessandra Potenza / The Verge But Simpson says the ban will be hard to enforce if residents won’t be given the resources necessary to quit smoking — like free access to smoking cessation groups, counseling, and smoking cessation aids like nicotine patches and gums. “Cigarette smoking is an addiction,” she says. “You can’t tell people to stop smoking without giving them the resources to quit smoking.”

NYCHA declined to comment on whether it will provide smoking cessation programs when the ban goes into place. Other public housing authorities with smoke-free policies say that they use education, counseling, and smoking cessation to help residents quit. Liu, at the Miami-Dade County Public Housing, says that residents who violate smoking bans are referred to the state Department of Health for help to quit. “It could be challenging, but if we approach it in the spirit of wanting to help and providing material to help educate,” he says, the smoking ban “will ultimately be successful.”

Simpson, on her part, hopes it will be. She has leukemia and her doctors have told her to quit smoking. She goes to a smoking cessation group run by New York Presbyterian Hospital and she’s down to eight or nine cigarettes a day from 16. Maybe not being able to smoke in her apartment next year will help. “I don’t want to continue to smoke; I know it’s bad for my health,” she says. “I’m not trying to stop smoking because HUD put this in place. I wanna see my grandchildren graduate. I wanna be at my granddaughters’ weddings when they get married one day.”


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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I'd like to see the politicians who create laws like this go into some housing projects like this and enforce their smoking prohibitions...

Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy

"About 99 of the units are vacant, many rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems, such as collapsed roofs and fire damage. Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open. Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks. In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale - a score so bad the buildings now face demolition."


61 posted on 12/18/2016 6:51:27 PM PST by TigersEye (Congratulations, President Donald J. Trump! - Let's MAGA!!!)
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To: jmacusa

Does this mean Obie can’t choom in his own house too? I didn’t think so.


62 posted on 12/18/2016 7:05:34 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Drango

Bribe and extortion opportunities!


63 posted on 12/18/2016 7:11:02 PM PST by Thud
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To: Duchess47

Get them off their pain pills and 10 other sedating meds too, THEN they’ll be ready to get the heck out of public housing!


64 posted on 12/18/2016 7:34:13 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: Drango

The courts disagreed.

They decided that HUD couldn’t ban a resident from the right to keep and bear arms in their government-funded houses. It’s a universal right.

As a private property owner, I can smoke in my house if I want to. How can you deny another person the same right? While they live there, it’s their home and there’s to enjoy as they see fit. Providing that they’re not breaking the law. (It is not universally against the law to smoke in your house)


65 posted on 12/18/2016 10:12:38 PM PST by Marie (The vulgarians are inside the gate! MAGA!)
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To: Timpanagos1

Let’s have a reality check here.

Since the cigarette tax has gone through the roof, cigarette sales in New York have dropped like crazy.

Cigarette smoking hasn’t budged one bit.

All this did was drive people into the black market. That’s what happens when the government tries to ban a ‘bad’ thing.

Did we all forget the lessons of prohibition?


66 posted on 12/18/2016 10:16:23 PM PST by Marie (The vulgarians are inside the gate! MAGA!)
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To: Drango

At least this explains why HUD has a SWAT team.


67 posted on 12/18/2016 10:18:31 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Marie

“Cigarette smoking hasn’t budged one bit.”

That is not at all accurate.

Smoking rates in the United States have declined.


68 posted on 12/19/2016 12:19:48 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Marie

“As a private property owner, I can smoke in my house if I want to. How can you deny another person the same right? While they live there, it’s their home and there’s to enjoy as they see fit. Providing that they’re not breaking the law. (It is not universally against the law to smoke in your house)”

As an owner of rental property, I can prohibit smoking inside the houses that I own rent to other people.

The leases that I sign and my tenants sign specify that smoking is not allowed inside the houses. If they violate the lease the can be evicted and they will lose their security deposit.

As a landlord, the HUD can also prohibit smoking.


69 posted on 12/19/2016 12:26:21 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Drango

Yeah—now that Barry is moving out of his public housing.


70 posted on 12/19/2016 12:47:19 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Drango

I have a better idea.

Ban public housing.


71 posted on 12/19/2016 12:50:21 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: umgud
HUD announced this ban, but is it a law passed by congress? I don’t care one way or the other, but I have a huge problem with agencies having this kind of power.

Hey, if they are going to accept government handouts, that's too bad.

The government has no right to tell private citizens whether or not they can smoke in their own property, but it's government property, and government leeches being subsidized with government money, (all of which should not be happening in the first place as the government has ZERO business being involved with it, but I digress) so if you don't like the rules, then get a stinkin' job and support yourself and get your OWN home to live in..

72 posted on 12/19/2016 12:58:02 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: jospehm20

Sure. Just go into some housing project and tell some feral black dude he can’t smoke anything. I’d love to see some busy body nanny stater do that. They’ll end up with a couple of holes in them.


73 posted on 12/19/2016 2:33:17 AM PST by jmacusa (Election 2016. The Battle of Midway for The Democrat Party.)
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To: Timpanagos1

I agree. Plus, Let’s get rid of Obama phones.


74 posted on 12/19/2016 4:03:04 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Drango

It will work as well as their no firearms and no drugs ban works.


75 posted on 12/19/2016 4:28:29 AM PST by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
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To: Timpanagos1

20 posts. The article ignored your point. And it was 20 posts before anyone got to this key issue.

Hey. If you can afford to smoke, then you don’t need public housing.


76 posted on 12/19/2016 6:50:10 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Drango

The sad thing that the fascist liberal smoke Nazis don’t realize are that the elderly & sickly residents in public housing will now have to go out side in the inclement {winter} weather & smoke their cigarettes and end up either catching: the flu, bronchitis or pneumonia! {Bet ya will still be able to smoke weed inside}!


77 posted on 12/20/2016 12:26:28 PM PST by DallasBiff (Lautenberg The Forefather of "The Nanny State!")
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To: Drango
April Simpson has been living in the Queensbridge Houses, a public housing development in Queens, New York, her whole life. “From day one. I was born here,” ... Simpson, a charismatic 54-year-old with buzzed short hair and a broad smile, is the Queensbridge tenants’ association president.

Just ... damn. I'm speechless.

78 posted on 12/20/2016 12:29:00 PM PST by NorthMountain (Northmountain)
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To: jmacusa
Oh yeah, this will work. Go in and tell homie he can’t smoke. Yeah, do that.

OK. Fine. You wanna light up a fag, GET THE HELL OUT OF TAXPAYER SUBSIDIZED HOUSING!!!!! Cigs are expensive. If you can afford cigs, you don't need to be on welfare.

79 posted on 12/20/2016 12:31:05 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Jim from C-Town
I have a huge problem with the whole idea of public housing.

Yeah ... like I can't seem to find it in the Constitution anywhere.

80 posted on 12/20/2016 12:31:56 PM PST by NorthMountain
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