Posted on 12/15/2016 4:30:41 PM PST by Fractal Trader
A years-long forensics investigation into the computer image of the long-form Hawaiian birth certificate image that Barack Obama released during a White House news conference during his first term and presented to the American people as an official government document reveals it is “fake.”
It also confirms those who were subjected to the derogatory “birther” label from many media outlets and Democrats for badgering Obama with lawsuits, petitions to the Supreme Court, and more, were right – at least in the dispute that the document was manufactured and the questions about Obama’s birth and legitimacy to be president under the Constitution’s requirements still are unanswered.
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Money. Barack Obama Senior was dead broke at the time. His life back home in Kenya was a shambles. He was walking with a cane during the 1971 visit because he had been involved in a car crash caused by his own excessive drinking.
He would sign any papers or make any statement they asked of him in exchange for money.
There is much about the history of the period between 1850 and 1900 that I have learned about in this last 12 months. It is not at all what I had been taught growing up.
After the civil war, everything was corrupt. That is the point at which the "robber barons" had taken over the government and set policy by how much it would enrich them and their allies.
But "letters" written while not under oath, are not proof of anything. Hearsay in writing doesn't amount to anything. I have looked at these statements by these officials involved. There was always a loophole in them.
The information came from a book written about the 2012 election: “Double Down: Game Change: 2012”
I thought that would be your source. I was aware of it, and that someone wrote this claim in a book is not proof of anything. Still, if Obama has such a document, I would find it more persuasive than anything that came from the state of Hawaii.
Here’s the likeliest scenario. O Sr had said he and SA were considering adoption for the expected baby. SA seemingly disappears off the face of the earth because she’s in a Canadian home for unwed mothers. In due time her mother flies to CA—probably Vancouver—to be with SA for the delivery.
SA gives birth (which Obama helpfully told us took place in the third week in July), and decides to keep the baby. Her mother remains with SA ~a week, the flies back to HI. Hers is the foreign arrival that must be kept secret; obviously allowing it to become known would destroy Obama’s birth narrative.
Back in HI, granny Dunham gets to work making sure her new grandson is a US citizen. She registers his birth, using her own address for SA’s residence, and listing O Sr as dad. (This registration triggered the birth announcements.)
Of course she has to inform O Sr. His name is going to be in the newspaper; he has to be told. She stresses to him that if he mentions the birth, he must cite Honolulu as the location. That is the only way his info will reinforce the birth registration she has worked so hard to make official.
It all fits, and nothing does. There are other aspects of Obama’s strange birth narrative that are only explained by this scenario as well. To name just one: SA’s sudden reappearance in Seattle. Had she actually given birth in HI, there’d have been no reason to take the newborn on such a long, expensive flight, just to take a couple of classes she could much more easily have taken in HI. She took them at UoW because she was returning from Canada to the US with a small baby, and a sojourn in Seattle made more sense than missing the fall semester in HI because the baby was too young to fly.
It’s by far the most coherent explanation. (Re the supposed souvenir birth certificate from Kapaolani, there are no photos of it in existence. Let that sink in.(But a pathological liar claims he actually did find it, so it must be true. Bol.))
Everything after that was playing catch up.
Exactly. This is the only explanation for the 7-9 mo black hole in SA’s life. She was off the grid in Canada. It explains the “handwritten,” “birth records,” etc. It even covers why Obama thought Honolulu is in Asia. When Canada is actually your birthplace, HI can seem like Asia. To actual, native Hawaiians, not so much.
Years ago when a single girl got pregnant she went away to ‘visit her aunt’ but actually went to a home for unwed mothers. The area around Vancouver was where all the Seattle girls went to stay for 5 or 6 months before the baby was born. I’ve always felt that’s where Stanley Ann went. It made the most sense.
I’d have to be persuaded that Obama Sr. is the father.
Thank you for that info. Stanley Ann also had a relative in that area of Canada—believe it or not, iirc, an aunt on her mother’s side.
The only argument I’m aware of for O Sr’s paternity is Sean Hannity. Hannity had a one on one, in person interview with Mark Ndjandro, Obama’s supposed half-brother. Hannity said the similarities between Mark and Barack Obama were uncanny, from a physical resemblance, to mannerisms, etc. Other than that, I know of no evidence that O Sr is the biological father.
I guess you’re not convinced
1) by testimony of grandmother sho said she witnessed the birth,
2) nuns who saw her kicked of the plane in Nairobi because she was pregnant,
3)Race Bannon from FR to whom Obama claimed he was born in Mombasa,
4)Obama’s own biography with book publisher which claimed Kenyan birth,
5)Lucas Smith copy of Kenyan Birth Certificate (with footprints!),
6) Scores of African newspapers which listed him as Kenyan-born in numerous articles after his election to US Senate
6) Immigration records which show flight of one American froom Kenya in the month of August 1961,
etc...
No official who received a letter of verification refused to accept it without sworn testimony but I’m certain that the Hawaii Registrar could provide that if anyone ever required it.
Certified Letters of Verification are authorized by Hawaii Revised Statute HRS §338-14.3 Verification in lieu of a certified copy. (a) Subject to the requirements of section 338-18, the department of health, upon request, shall furnish to any applicant, in lieu of the issuance of a certified copy, a verification of the existence of a certificate and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event that pertains to the certificate.
(b) A verification shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.
(c) Verification may be made in written, electronic, or other form approved by the director of health.
(d) The fee for a verification in lieu of a certified copy shall be a maximum of one half of the fee established in section 338-14.5 for the first certified copy of a certificate issued.
(e) Fees received for verifications in lieu of certified copies shall be remitted, and one half of the fee shall be deposited to the credit of the vital statistics improvement special fund in section 338-14.6 and the remainder of the fee shall be deposited to the credit of the state general fund. [L 2001, c 246, §1; am L 2010, c 55, §1]
Kapiolani Hospital has a vested interest in Obama being born there. They used his birth to fundraise for their Centennial anniversary in 2009.
I’m one of the earliest and strongest proponents of the Kenyan birth. I used to cite the grandmother’s claim that Barry was born there. Long ago, someone walked me through that video, and convinced me once and for all that she was referring to O Sr. I’ll leave it at that.
I have searched till I was blue in the face for a reputable, verifiable source for the nun story. Never found one.
I absolutely, completely believe a young Barry Obama told RaceB he was born in Kenya. Totally. Obama also told his teachers and classmates, going back to elementary school, alternately that he was African royalty or an Indonesian-born prince. He is a pathologically lying Malignant Narcissist. Telling lies to embellish, romanticize and elevate themselves and their history is what MNs do.
Most of the other items you cite stem from Obama’s own lies, told steadily over a period of decades.
I personally don’t believe Lucas Smith has an original BC. Has it ever been professionally authenticated?
I haven’t seen a connection proven between any immigration records from Africa and/or Kenya and Obama. How factually grounded is that claim?
I do not believe many modern Americans can comprehend the feelings that would have been embodied in a white Kansas couple upon finding out their daughter had been impregnated by a black man in 1961. It was in fact a crime in many states at that time, and the social consequences in that era would have been severe.
For this among other reasons, the idea that Stanley Ann would be shipped off to live with a relative is quite reasonable. For whatever reason, we know she spent a great deal of time separated from her mother and father and this was obviously connected to issues surrounding this pregnancy and birth.
Even the official narrative has her leaving her family for nearly a year, and a very obvious explanation for this is a big blow up with her parents over getting pregnant by a black guy. The fact that she didn't enroll for the Semester in January of 1961 indicates that she may have realized she was going away in December of 1960.
Why else would she waste a semester in the early days of her pregnancy when it would have been little trouble for her to attend? If she was just sitting around the house all day listening to records, she could have just as easily been going to the University to keep working on her degree.
She attended the fall of 1960, so one would have thought she would have attended the next semester as well. That she didn't is possibly the result of her not being there in Hawaii at the time.
Are you kidding? All such Officials were thrilled to death to get this fig leaf that would get them off the hook from having to do their job.
It isn't real proof, but it was close enough to save them from having to be brave and demand some real proof.
Kapiolani Hospital has a vested interest in Obama being born there. They used his birth to fundraise for their Centennial anniversary in 2009.
That is not proof.
‘Kapiolani Hospital has a vested interest in Obama being born there. They used his birth to fundraise for their Centennial anniversary in 2009.’
You and your half-truths are pathetic. The instant it was explained to Kapaolani that fundraising off Obama’s birth, unless he actually was born at Kapaolani, constituted fraud, the letter from Obama was hidden from public view. It has never again been publicly displayed, nor has Kapaolani ever again fundraised off the claim of being Obama’s birth hospital.
When you have to lie with partial truths, you are wrong/defending a lie.
Those are good points. I’ll just add, had SA been sitting around the house playing records, she’d have been noticed. Specifically, she’d have been noticed by the teen resident of the house. It was a three bedroom ranch; had SA been there, Cindy would have known it. But despite Maraniss interviewing Cindy and everyone else in HI he could find, he was unable to place SA in HI during her pregnancy.
She wasn’t there.
Kapiolani Hospital’s Centennial anniversary year was 2009. The Kapiolani Foundation published a Centennial Magazine which included a congratulatory letter from Barack Obama mentioning Kapiolani as “the place of my birth.” The magazine was up on the Kapiolani Foundation web site for the centennial year of 2009. The Obama letter is on page 7.
Since 2009, Kapiolani is under new management, Hawaii Pacific Health and the former Kapiolani Foundation no longer exists.
“Kapiolani Medical Center 100 Years of Caring For Children 1909 to 2009”
https://www.scribd.com/book/52083178
“That is not proof. “
“Are you kidding? All such Officials were thrilled to death to get this fig leaf that would get them off the hook from having to do their job.
It isn’t real proof, but it was close enough to save them from having to be brave and demand some real proof.”
The controversy began in July 2009, when WND analyzed the Obama letter and found that the letter as published by the hospital was not a picture of an actual paper letter but a computer-created likeness.
Within an hour after WND broke the story in July 2009 that the Obama letter the hospital had posted for six months on its website was electronic in composition, Kapi’olani removed the letter from its website without explanation.
In July 2009, Watanabe refused to confirm or deny for WND the veracity of Obama’s letter claiming he was born at the hospital.
Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2011/03/278689/#WJDPwZgEWRVPygPo.99
Despite numerous, repeated requests for more than two weeks, the White House is refusing to verify the authenticity of a letter allegedly sent by President Obama in which he ostensibly declares a Honolulu hospital as his birthplace.
Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2009/07/104718/#uIrQUXYuooSaEt4m.99
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