Sheriff's investigation finds Obama birth certificate 'fake'

World Net Daily ^ | 15 December 2016 | Bob Unruh

[Fractal Trader]

A years-long forensics investigation into the computer image of the long-form Hawaiian birth certificate image that Barack Obama released during a White House news conference during his first term and presented to the American people as an official government document reveals it is “fake.”

It also confirms those who were subjected to the derogatory “birther” label from many media outlets and Democrats for badgering Obama with lawsuits, petitions to the Supreme Court, and more, were right – at least in the dispute that the document was manufactured and the questions about Obama’s birth and legitimacy to be president under the Constitution’s requirements still are unanswered.

[DiogenesLamp]

Sure we can....he said he was....several times.

He also said "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

The man is a liar and an idiot. Nothing he says can be taken as proof of anything.

[DiogenesLamp]

The obvious reason is that as EVERYONE already knows that water is wet, the framers all knew what “natural born citizen” meant. In their minds, at the time, no need to define it. I wish they had.

You should read what I wrote up above. The word "Citizen" effectively defines itself once you look into where the word originated.

The word is not native to English, and especially not in it's current usage. It's current usage indicates that it was adopted from Switzerland where it was known to mean members of a confederated republic.

In the English of the time period (1770s) the word "Citizen" meant someone who lived in a City.

From "A dictionary of the English language. by Samuel Johnson, 1768."

I have examined several other English dictionaries from that time period. All of them define "Citizen" as members of a city. None of them define it as members of a nation. They also all acknowledge that the word is "French" in origin.

[scripter]

What are you talking about?

Actually, The_Media_never_lie was quoting me.

I was using a literary device in an attempt to reach people who may see things differently.

[DiogenesLamp]

Then there was the time x argued strenuously that Obama wrote Dreams From my Father. If Obama wrote one line in that book, I’m the Queen of England (when she was younger).

"x" makes mistakes, (see his civil war commentary.:) ) but he's not an Obot. I think that in the last six months or so I saw an article in which Bill Ayers has finally admitted in a non-sarcastic manner, that he did indeed write "Dreams from my Father."

Jack Cashill more or less proved this years ago.

[DiogenesLamp]

You know it is fake. I sincerely know it is fake. DT believes it is fake. But, it is upheld as real by the mainstream media.

I keep telling anyone who will listen, the number one threat facing the United States today is one party control of the information streams.

Liberal media is destroying us, and we need to get it under control before it wrecks us.

[danamco]

Will NEVER happens as long as he is in the White Hut (stolen) !!!

[danamco]

REMEMBER Clint Eastwood’s words after he was talking to an empty chair !!!

[danamco]

NO records on birth from the claimed Hawaiian hospital either???

[danamco]

Trump is playing chess with him for another month+ !!!

[danamco]

A job for new AG Sessions !!!

[danamco]

Inspector Smith has the real Kenyan copy !!!

[Fantasywriter]

Our respective experiences with the poster in question have varied wildly. But to be honest, I see the party as more of a contrarian-like would-be voice of reason against the ‘misguided’ conspiracists than an obama-apologist.

[DiogenesLamp]

But to be honest, I see the party as more of a contrarian-like would-be voice of reason against the ‘misguided’ conspiracists than an obama-apologist.

That is more or less how I see him too.

[okie01]

My point is that the word "Citizen" itself demonstrates that we followed Vattel's "Natural Law" , and not English common law. Had we intended to follow English common law, we would have kept using the word "Subject."

Very interesting research regarding the etymology of the term "citizen". Thanks for the background.

However, I would disagree with the reason why the framers scuttled "subject" in favor of "citizen". The term "subject" inferred subordination to the state, while the framers considered the individual to be "sovereign".

Otherwise, I'd contend that the 1790 & 1795 laws regarding citizenship clearly indicate that the framers (who were part of the legislature at the time) wanted every benefit of citizenship conveyed to children born abroad of an American citizen father -- including eligibility for the presidency.

Such citizenship was an accepted part of British common law because Britain's far-flung commercial interests required British subjects to be far-flung across the globe themselves. A child was no less British because he was born in India of a British father and a maharani.

It was not until 1932, as I recall, that the U.S. parental citizenship requirement was modernized to make the mother the co-equal of the father -- but the requirement remained one citizen parent.

[Fantasywriter]

I love it when we agree!

+1

[Neidermeyer]

I was unaware of that issue. ,, The poster of the link stated only that he didn’t know the html to show the pic so I added the html for him.

[rxsid]

"If the truth is knowable, it is important that it come out and be accurately reported. Truth is still not subjective."

A salient point.

[MHGinTN]

Sadly, that is so true!

[Leep]

Why would someone willingly? Submit their BC but not their college records?

[MHGinTN]

Why would someone in the presidency submit to the public a clearly fraudulent BC? ... Because he can and knows he can get away with spitting in the face of we the people with it. He is the penultimate democrap party leader, a lying, drug-addled, sexual degenerate America hater, racist fraud..