15 August 2004:
Posted on 12/15/2016 11:14:42 AM PST by GonzoII
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The takeaways from this comparison.
Obama and Malcolm X were each photographed holding their heads in a similar position.
The photos can be sized identically.
Both men were smiling.
Odds of determing, from these two photos, that Malcolm X fathered Obama = zero.
The info below tells you that the key to Obama’s birth issues/facts lies in someone’s arrival to HI from a foreign country during the week of Obama’s supposed birth. (Tip: it wasn’t Malcolm X.)
‘The Arpaio report, for instance, noted that “the INS records for foreign flights arriving in Hawaii during the week of Obama’s birth were missing, not only on the microfilm reels examined, but also in the primary database itself.”’
http://www.cashill.com/intellect_fraud/will_wa_po.htm
http://www.dailywire.com/news/3166/trump-says-something-true-about-obama-and-mosques-michael-qazvini
“I was a little Jakarta street kid...My experience growing up in Indonesia or having family in small villages in Africa — I think it makes me much more mindful...” stated Obama in an interview with The New York Times’ Nicholas Kristof. “I’ve witnessed it in much more direct ways than I think the average American has witnessed it.”
Many Freepers here have looked into this cluster for years.I have delved into it some but nowhere on the scale as others here who know it inside out.
One thing that has occurred to me is that it's very possible el zero has had those who engage in disinformation muddying the waters on his behalf for years now.
This alone creates a huge barrier to ever locating the exact truth,and of course it's done on purpose to hide whatever lie they are engaging in this week.
As we all know truth does exist,it has been elusive on this issue but its there. Merry Christmas to all here on Fr.
Since you criticize me for not posting more links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/7995a/barack_obamas_grandfather_looks_like_a_white/
(Full title, “Barack Obama’s grandfather looks like a white Barack Obama [pics]”)
Another link:
https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/10/24/what-does-black-and-white-look-like-anyway/
Fred Nerks wrote:
“Of course he has a citizenship problem, there’s nothing valid that shows who his parents were nor where he came from.
You can’t have it more simple.”
If there isn’t anything valid, where is the ‘two Ann’ and ‘two babies’ theory going; what is its purpose?
It’s not a “theory”. It’s where the evidence led.
All the research findings have not been made public, from what I gather.
That is a very good question. Here’s another: why would UoW and UoH join forces to destroy the Obama-fairytale, first told in Dreams, and then retold by Obama himself upon his 2004 intro to the national stage? If UoH was willing to participate in a crime, then why not a crime to help rather than hurt Obama?
We’re told that the real harm would have been to reveal the existence of Anna. Then why in heaven’s name LIE to the effect that SA was in Seattle??? We’re told the evanescent/mythical Anna was there. Then why call attention to that location at all??? Why wouldn’t UoW just stay out of it, and let UoH pretend SA was there the entire time???
Please, nobody suggest that SA’s transcripts were forged to cover for Anna’s transcripts. No transcripts for Anna exist. If they ever did (they didn’t), why not just delete them? Why go through the criminal act of forging fake transcripts for SA?
I know that to the non-logical minds that believe all this, it somehow makes sense. And that is downright scary.
[Best possible Anna-is-not-a-variant-of-Ann solution. Rather than commit criminal acts and academic fraud, why would they not simply have had someone from the U confirm that Ann was going by Anna at the time. If there really was a vast leftwing conspiracy afoot, this, or similar solutions, would have been a 100x preferable to the illegal, clumsy, convoluted, Obama-credibilty-devasting ‘solution,’ we’re asked to believe they cooked up.]
Funny how the evidence didn’t lead Cashill, Corsi, or any other published conservative researcher there. Just a few people on obscure threads, who haven’t the confidence in their evidence to publish it and expose it to a larger audience.
Thanks for correcting my error and yes, I agree with your estimation of what happened. Completely agree.
That’s why his college records are sealed.
Little Jeremiah,
When is the book coming out, about the two Ann’s and two boys?
Correct. But the transcript is important for another reason. The transcript is really the fact that tips the scales in favor of Fred’s longer term analysis that there were two different women; and two different mixed race boys.
You have Anna Obama at the Tout Capitol Hill Boarding House in the 1961 Seattle Polk Directory. I am inclined to view Fred’s analysis of the 18 months (Mary’s 18 month old child born in July 59) as a little looser than January of 1961 for other reasons—I think at best Anna got to Capitol Hill in later January, more likely early February of 61. But it is also consistent with the story that Anna was at the Salvation Army adoption service a few blocks away in April of 1961 (also attested by notes in Senior’s immigration file).
But Mary baby-sitting the mixed race little boy then is inconsistent with Stanley Ann and Senior as the mother and father; inconsistent with a conception date in the fall of 60 and birth in August of 61 for a child of Stanley Ann and Senior; inconsistent with Stanley Ann of the Dreams legend as Anna on Capitol Hill at all in the Dreams legend because Stanley would have still been in school at least through June of 60.
But Anna Obama living at the Tout Boarding house is perfectly consistent as the mother of BHO Jr.—Senior wrote letters home telling the family in the village that he had met and married a woman named Anna Tout; that she had born him a son named BHO jr.
The transcript clearly has the student woman at the Tout Boarding House Capitol Hill address; and it clearly identifies the student, not as an Anna Obama, but as Stanley Ann Dunham, graduate of Mercer Island High School in Seattle. The woman has a child which Mary babysat during the first calendar quarter of 1961. The initial gyrations involved an effort to somehow identify a mistake that could have made the woman Stanley Ann. The story of her residence includes a visit to the adoption service in April of 1961; it clearly includes the presence of the baby boy.
Follow on media coverage written by insiders at least initially say that the child ultimately known as Barry was not present on Capitol Hill in the school period in the 61-62 academic period speculating that Barry was living with Senior at the YMCA in Honolulu which is also inconsistent with the accepted record.
There isn't any way to manipulate the record to make the person reflected as Stanley Ann Dunham on Capitol hill the Anna Obama who lived there--there were two different women.
In Dreams, Bill Ayers, Ghost writing for Barry, gives you several important clues. He tells you Stanley was early admitted to the Chicago University in 1959; he tells you she was working as an Au Paire giving you a movie release date for the period in January 1962.
Again, Fred’s analysis of Stanley appears to have been correct. Stanley was a student at Mercer Island High School as a Sophomore (57-58) and Junior (58-59).
Early admission combined diploma programs were common in the period, both at the University of Washington and at Chicago University. Stanley went to Chicago where she did her credit work to get the Mercer Island diploma with her class in 1960 (59-60); she wasn’t there to get her picture in the annual as a senior because she was in Chicago but she in fact got her degree there and proceeded on with the two year program getting college credits through June, 1961. Consistent with the record which does not include her in the student annual as a senior but which does reflect her High School diploma at Mercer Island.
Also consistent with her later academic record. She ultimately starts school at U of Hawaii in March of 1963--she takes her final classes there prior to July of 1965--a little over two years. But she gets her four year BA degree issued in July of 1966 with no further academic attendance. Where did she get the credits to do that? Even if she had been at the University of Washington in a part time night school for two quarters (Fall 61, Winter 62) and a quasi full time student Spring 62, she doesn't make a four year degree. The University of Chicago credits are the difference.
Stanley then became an Au Paire in August of 61.
In mid August of 1961, she appears on Mercer Island with her classmate friend and later Mercer Island City Councilwoman Susan (Botkin) Blake, with infant Barry, “on her way to Boston” to live with Barry in a rental house owned by Ella Collins, his aunt. On the record (the baby boy gone from Capitol Hill after September 61 and pictured together with Barry reflecting the appropriate ages; Senior visiting his son in Boston in 62, 63, and 64 after Barry has gone to Indonesia in January 63) infers and is consistent with Stanley acting as Au Paire for both boys in the 61-62 period.
Point about the transcript is that it is the only single piece of evidence that puts Stanley Ann in Seattle in 1961-62. It is directly inconsistent with Blake's testimony that Stanley was on her way to Boston in August of 61; and inconsistent with her residence with Ella Collins in the period. And under circumstances in which the transcript itself is fraudulent, it leaves you with only the conclusion that the transcript is an effort to produce a fraudulent record making Stanley the woman living on Capitol Hill under the name Obama. There were simply two different women with two different baby boys, one about 7 months older than the other.
Wew—that is one convoluted post.
Here is your problem. Not everyone who talks about SA has an accurate memory, and not everyone tells the truth. Were it not for you and maybe two or three others In The World, no one would have an issue with Anna. The U says she lived where SA lived. SA tried every known combination of her name. As Corsi and every other KNOWN researcher who has ever written on the subject agrees, Anna was SA.
A criminally fraudulent transcript was never needed to cover up for a woman that three or four people on obscure Internet threads ALONE believe in. That’s just silly. Everyone else readily believes something is off either with Toutonghi’s memory or her honesty. Simple as that.
There was no letter home from Sr talking about Anna Tout. Aunt Zeituni was a con artist, so if she’s the one you’re basing it on, you’re misled/mistaken. Otherwise, link to the letter, please.
David,
Who is the next younger boy to Mark, in items 19 thru 25 here (#23, look at the two younger boys)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=187#187
Pictures are from Mark’s latest book “an Obama’s journey”.
Item #9 thru #18 in post #187 are comparisons of the two little boys of about preschool/kindergarten age (the ones we’ve seen from Mark’s website & Fred’s posts) with the two boys of elementary school age, that are from Mark’s family pictures.
The ones from Mark’s book are his family pix also.
Occam’s razor says that the two boys are who Mark says they are.
And the whole series of pix shown in items 9-18 and 19-25 of post #187 show the same two boys together in the —same place— KENYA, during the time that 0 is halfway around the world, either in Hawaii or Indonesia.
Therefore none of the pix show 0, especially in the preschool/kindergarten one - the boy on left matches boy on left in elementary age pic.
To put it another way. If you’d had articles by reputable authors coming out about Anna Tout, and if her ‘existence,’ had become a subject of discussion, and people were using it in any meaningful way to undermine obama, you would have a point.
But Anna Tout was not mentioned by any author in any reputable venue. No one was publicly discussing how her [mythical] existence undercut Obama’s story. Not cashill, not Corsi, no other established conservative author, certainly no lberal...no one.
This great threat to Obama’s integrity was nonexistent. Period.
Cashill.
What an unproductive distraction.
I’m not a researcher, just a reader who thirsts mightily for the truth, and so read all the research threads as they appeared. I hope there is a book being written.
What buoys my hope is that Zullo and Arpaio have been on the trail for several years, and at the end of the news conference Arpaio said they have more “sensitive information” on “this matter” and that such info will be given to the feds. I have little doubt that Attorney General Jeff Sessions will make good use of it.
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