Posted on 12/13/2016 7:25:23 AM PST by wyowolf
An unarmed grandfather in the early stages of dementia was shot dead by police while he walked around the block near his home. Francisco Serna, 73, was hit nine times by gunfire from police in Bakersfield, California, answering a call about a man with a gun - but no weapon was recovered from the scene. He was stood in his neighbor's driveway at around 12.30am Monday morning when he was gunned down. His family said he took the late-night walks to tire himself out.
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I suspect intensive interviewing of neighbors will find that somebody had a run-in with him and he was SWAT-ted.
I don’t keep count, but I started noticing when the young vet (Scott ?? cant remember the name) with the CCW was gunned down at Cosco in near Vegas. Since then I can recall an Atlanta cop at the wrong address gunning down the person who answered the door, the whole Levoy Finnican fiasco, numerous dogs being shot, etc. I am not here to be the shell answer man on this topic. So feel free to dig in on this on your own.
I am not anti-cop. However, I have stated on many occasions now that every time I see one of these bad shootings, I recall back to my youth when cops were friendly and you weren’t afraid to talk with them. Today’s breed are spring loaded to holster draw if you approach them at anything other than a snails pace. I have said that in many circumstances they have reasons to be that way. But if cops want to have the respect of the community, they aren’t going to do so by keeping their distance and mostly getting a free pass when they screw up and take a life without an actual threat being there.
“Another example of just how low the standards are to hire police these days”..............didn’t say if he cops were hired due to affirmative action. A possibility though. Now that a cop no longer has to even be a citizen will only bring more problems within law enforcement departments.
“Another example of just how low the standards are to hire police these days”..............didn’t say ift he cops were hired due to affirmative action. A possibility though. Now that a cop no longer has to even be a citizen will only bring more problems within law enforcement departments.
Ping.
” I recall back to my youth when cops were friendly and you weren’t afraid to talk with them. “
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When I was a kid cops were coshing teen aged boys with billy clubs and giving third degrees to those arrested.
The bad shoots get much publicity———the good confrontations don’t get even a nod from the press.
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Doesn’t the pic of his son show him flashing gang tats? Was his address connected to gang/drug activities?
Such is the nature of most good deeds in most professions. If you are using that as a defense for the bad actions, don't. Professions like the military, law enforcements, fire fighters, etc, should not be concerned with how they are viewed in the press (except to always act in the best manner so as not to become the bad press the media is always looking for). You should be doing the job for the few lives that you might positively impact while you "serve and protect".
When police arrived, a witness pointed to a man in the driveway of a residence. An officer fired several rounds at the man, who was pronounced dead at the scene.”
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I’m not taking that literally. I don’t believe someone pointed at him and the police immediately gunned him down. There’s a lot of missing information between the first and second sentence.
“Cops are clearly not trained properly anywhere.”
No, they ARE trained but what they are trained to do is to shoot first and ask questions later. The ‘proper’ name for that philosophy is called “No More Hesitation”.
I am hearing one side of the story. I would like to hear the cops side of the story, but shooting at a guy in the street just because? This doesn’t add up.
This doesn’t make sense, the man is pointed out and the officer starts shooting? Either total incompetent officer who committed murder or something else involved. Can any officer be that stupid, yes I supposed but just having a potential suspect pointed out and then opening fire without making contact? Lots of gaps.
We also know, so far as the article is reliable, that no weapon was recovered at the scene. I’d bet that that detail was accurate. I(’d also think that if he was carrying something that looked like a gun that would have been reported.
Maybe a flash light if he is out walking around at 12:30 in the morning. Why was he walking around at 12:30 in the morning if his dementia had taken a turn for the worse? Obviously he did something to attract the attention of the neighbor.
So am I, and there almost always is much more.
Maybe the older gentleman came from a house with a Trump campaign sign in his lawn. Just saying.
Why was he walking around at 12:30 in the morning if his dementia had taken a turn for the worse?
Maybe he couldn’t sleep and wanted to go for a walk. Yes, it is a bit odd and might attract the attention of the neighbors, but it is, or was, a free country.
I didn’t know that there was a curfew in Bakersfield. /sarc
We also know, so far as the article is reliable, that no weapon was recovered at the scene. I’d bet that that detail was accurate.
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I bet it is, too. All these determinations are easy when I’m in my soft chair in front of the computer screen reading about the event with hindsight.
The report about the police being told that the deceased was armed was probably accurate, too. It’s also likely that the officer who fired didn’t know the deceased was unarmed at the time.
Bakersfield is pretty much a Mexican war zone these days.
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