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C.I.A. Judgment on Russia Built on Swell of Evidence (Slimes doubles-down on fake news)
The New York Slimes ^ | 2016-12-11 | Mark Mazzetti and Eric Lichtblau

Posted on 12/11/2016 7:35:42 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

WASHINGTON — American spy and law enforcement agencies were united in the belief, in the weeks before the presidential election, that the Russian government had deployed computer hackers to sow chaos during the campaign. But they had conflicting views about the specific goals of the subterfuge.

Last week, Central Intelligence Agency officials presented lawmakers with a stunning new judgment that upended the debate: Russia, they said, had intervened with the primary aim of helping make Donald J. Trump president.

The C.I.A.’s conclusion does not appear to be the product of specific new intelligence obtained since the election, several American officials, including some who had read the agency’s briefing, said on Sunday. Rather, it was an analysis of what many believe is overwhelming circumstantial evidence — evidence that others feel does not support firm judgments — that the Russians put a thumb on the scale for Mr. Trump, and got their desired outcome.

It is unclear why the C.I.A. did not produce this formal assessment before the election, although several officials said that parts of it had been made available to President Obama in the presidential daily briefing in the weeks before the vote. But the conclusion that Moscow ran an operation to help install the next president is one of the most consequential analyses by American spy agencies in years.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cia; election; fakenews; realpropaganda; trump
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So the New York Times is admitting that all the Wikileaks docs were authentic!!


41 posted on 12/11/2016 8:17:34 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (The Left Lies All of the Time)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
makes no sense. why on earth would the Russians not want an obamite pushover like hillary in the White House to continue the current flaccid foreign policies?
42 posted on 12/11/2016 8:18:46 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So the Russians managed to stuff the ballot boxes with Trump votes and swing the election in dozens of states without anyone noticing. Sure. Heck the Russians couldn’t even build a jeep that didn’t break down hauling Castro’s ashes to the cemetery. While the leaked emails might have influenced some voters, the in the tank for Hillary media managed to pretty well cover up that story and broadcast an unending stream of lies and pro Hillary propaganda.


43 posted on 12/11/2016 8:19:24 PM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A “swell” of evidence. Now there is an artfully imprecise term.


44 posted on 12/11/2016 8:20:48 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: DarthVader

I pray it doesn’t come to that.

It’s past time for the Republicans to step up and denounce this blatant attempt at destroying over 200 years of American democracy. Yes it is that serious.

Instead of denouncing this Russian fairytale, we have GOP Senators signing a bipartisan statement giving legitimacy to this story.

I used to scoff at people who said that Obama would declare martial law and not leave office on time. As crazy as it sounds, I’m no longer certain that is impossible.


45 posted on 12/11/2016 8:24:11 PM PST by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"the Russian government had deployed computer hackers to sow chaos"

Their choice of the word "chaos" is interesting. What exactly was "chaotic" during the campaign? The MSM losing control of the storyline? Publishing emails embarrassing to Hillary was "sowing chaos"?

Why would hearing the truth about her be considered "chaos," unless the MSM plan was to insure Hillary's election by doing everything possible to prevent negative stories about her from emerging while simultaneously trashing Trump 24/7? Are the media pissed off because they think Russia did a better job of influencing opinion than they did?
46 posted on 12/11/2016 8:28:23 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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>> that the Russians put a thumb on the scale for Mr. Trump, and got their desired outcome.

The MSM is the Country’s greatest threat.


47 posted on 12/11/2016 8:30:20 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: phoneman08

It will and there are many who are ready to do it. This is the reason the establishment is spooked. Those who perpetrated this are domestic enemies and traitors. They are going to be punished for this and ruthlessly:

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=53277


48 posted on 12/11/2016 8:32:51 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: goldstategop

They provided evidence that NK hacked Sony. Some computer forensics folks (some were freepers) quickly debunked the evidence. There was nothing definitive. The official conclusion was merely crafted to meet an agenda.

Anyone have that thread?


49 posted on 12/11/2016 8:33:02 PM PST by FreeInWV
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To: phoneman08

Obama has no friends in the rank n file and is regarded as a traitor. They will turn on him and destroy him.


50 posted on 12/11/2016 8:36:05 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: DarthVader

No doubt they are desperate. Include McCain among the desperate.


51 posted on 12/11/2016 8:38:24 PM PST by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz)
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To: realcleanguy

“This is a Coup attempt. make no mistake about it.”

Spot on. I know some people are laughing and brushing this off, but I’m not.

The Globalists and the left (but I repeat myself) aren’t going to just go away without a fight. They are vicious and they don’t play fair. They are capable of anything, and I mean ANYTHING.

If Twitter is any indication, there are plenty of cretins who believe this fake story and believe the election results should be invalidated.

I won’t rest well until January 20.


52 posted on 12/11/2016 8:41:17 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: phoneman08

He will hang too! Traitors are traitors and we make no distinctions about political parties.


53 posted on 12/11/2016 8:41:39 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

Don’t even rest well after that date. The war is only beginning.


54 posted on 12/11/2016 8:42:34 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

{The following is a pretty well written article and includes the following.}

A second senior official cited by the Washington Post conceded that intelligence agencies did not have specific proof that the Kremlin was “directing” the hackers.

Craig Murray, the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, who is a close associate of Assange, called the CIA claims “bullshit”, adding: “They are absolutely making it up.”

“I know who leaked them,” Murray said. “I’ve met the person who leaked them, and they are certainly not Russian and it’s an insider. It’s a leak, not a hack; the two are different things.

“If what the CIA are saying is true, and the CIA’s statement refers to people who are known to be linked to the Russian state, they would have arrested someone if it was someone inside the United States.

“America has not been shy about arresting whistleblowers and it’s not been shy about extraditing hackers. They plainly have no knowledge whatsoever.”

The California Republican congressman Devin Nunes, chair of the House intelligence committee and a member of the Trump transition team, said: “I’ll be the first one to come out and point at Russia if there’s clear evidence, but there is no clear evidence – even now. There’s a lot of innuendo, lots of circumstantial evidence, that’s it.”

CIA concludes Russia interfered to help Trump win election, say reports

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/10/cia-concludes-russia-interfered-to-help-trump-win-election-report


55 posted on 12/11/2016 8:43:51 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: DarthVader

“Don’t even rest well after that date. The war is only beginning.’

Good point.


56 posted on 12/11/2016 8:45:40 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: WENDLE

Exactly. If there is so much evidence why can’t we see some of it?


57 posted on 12/11/2016 8:51:29 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This confirms in my mind that they've finally accepted the fact that they can't "win" the election via recounts and the like.

Now they (which includes thousands within the "establishment") are getting scared s***less as it sinks in.

But, convincing the public (or the stupid ones at least) that the Russians helped Trump isn't going to change the election results, so I don't know what they're expecting to happen. Perhaps the idea is to try and spin up some protests/riots.. that seems to be their answer for everything.

58 posted on 12/11/2016 8:54:12 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What is a swell of evidence? Is it something less than a preponderance of evidence but more than pure conjecture?

Start to worry when Hillary starts firing up her fake transition team.


59 posted on 12/11/2016 8:54:30 PM PST by Fhios
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To: Cementjungle

This is what you call a last desperate act by a bunch of folks who are in way over their heads. The only thing they will accomplish by this is getting a bunch of these lunkheads (as you most accurately described) killed.


60 posted on 12/11/2016 8:58:21 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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