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The CIA’s Absence of Conviction
CraigMurray.org ^ | December 11, 2016 | By Craig Murray

Posted on 12/11/2016 2:33:01 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

I have watched incredulous as the CIA’s blatant lie has grown and grown as a media story – blatant because the CIA has made no attempt whatsoever to substantiate it. There is no Russian involvement in the leaks of emails showing Clinton’s corruption. This rubbish has been the lead today in the Washington Post in the US and the Guardian here, and was the lead item on the BBC main news. I suspect it is leading the American broadcasts also.

A little simple logic demolishes the CIA’s claims. The CIA claim they “know the individuals” involved. Yet under Obama the USA has been absolutely ruthless in its persecution of whistleblowers, and its pursuit of foreign hackers through extradition. We are supposed to believe that in the most vital instance imaginable, an attempt by a foreign power to destabilise a US election, even though the CIA knows who the individuals are, nobody is going to be arrested or extradited, or (if in Russia) made subject to yet more banking and other restrictions against Russian individuals? Plainly it stinks. The anonymous source claims of “We know who it was, it was the Russians” are beneath contempt.

As Julian Assange has made crystal clear, the leaks did not come from the Russians. As I have explained countless times, they are not hacks, they are insider leaks. . . if Hillary Clinton had not connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie, . . .not received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie, if she had not accepted massive donations to the Clinton foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence, if she had not failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people, then none of this would have happened. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at craigmurray.org.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: 2016trumprussiahack; assange; cia; clinton; democrats; trump
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1 posted on 12/11/2016 2:33:01 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The Russians did it??? Come on Hillary/Soros, you LOST. GET OVER IT!
2 posted on 12/11/2016 2:37:46 PM PST by patriot08 (5th generation Texan-(girl type) We won! Ok, Donald, let's ROLL!)
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To: patriot08

The CIA. Another agency that has become politically weaponized under Obama.


3 posted on 12/11/2016 2:47:15 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
The CIA. Another agency that has become politically weaponized under Obama

The CIA has been globalist to the core since 1947.

4 posted on 12/11/2016 2:48:42 PM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This is the fake news that hillary/schumer/reid have been so concerned about.


5 posted on 12/11/2016 2:49:07 PM PST by joshua c (Cut the cord! Don't pay for the rope they hang you with.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It’s to distract from the likely real source of the DNC e-mails, Seth Rich.
They do not want people investigating his untimely death.


6 posted on 12/11/2016 2:49:29 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I wish somebody would explain how the Russkis could hack Clintoonie’s toilet server and that would cause Americans to vote for Trump. There is no logic being used here. Hell, 98% of the voters in this country didn’t even know that the Clintoon’s toilet server had been hacked until this week when the “CIA” leaked their “secret report”. No one covered the Wikileak emails except FOX and conservative websites. The LowInfo voters never knew about any hack or emails.


7 posted on 12/11/2016 2:52:22 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

But remember that Bernie told us that “NO ONE CARES” about the emails?

Heh-heh.

Nice try, Bernie! I know it cost Hillary a lake house or two to say it, but no way!!


8 posted on 12/11/2016 2:54:40 PM PST by browniexyz
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This is why this is all funny. They think it’s gonna hurt Trump, when in reality people will get curious about what was leaked. lol
The left is truly stuck on stupid along with with the GOP traitors in the senate and house.


9 posted on 12/11/2016 2:55:08 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The CIA says they know the two individuals involved. But in the article I read way down at the bottom it says they can’t connect them directly to Russia. But that’s how Russia does it ....sometimes.


10 posted on 12/11/2016 2:56:02 PM PST by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist inmy lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: patriot08

Headline of the Day Poll

Why are Democrats saying Russia interferred with the presidential election?

They are concerned with the integrity of the system

They are trying to delegitimize Trump’s presidency

Read more: http://www.headlineoftheday.com/2016/12/11/why-are-democrats-saying-russia-interferred-with-the-presidential-election/#ixzz4SY3OjX2F


11 posted on 12/11/2016 2:57:30 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Now we better understand why neither the FBI or CIA have done anything with fraudulent Obozo. The sobering truth is that the leaders of these two government organizations are U.S. subverters. While there are good men and women inside, too many are afraid to do anything. A Muslin runs the Agency and a crooked political hack is in charge of the Bureau, whose boss is an even worse political hack. This is how close the country came to being flushed down the toilet. These saboteurs days are numbered but they now desperately try to justify their failed coup by peddling propaganda that throws up straw men to excuse the recent failures and unpopularity.
12 posted on 12/11/2016 3:13:54 PM PST by iontheball
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To: Lurkinanloomin

It may be Seth Rich, but if it is, why hide the fact anymore? Instead it should be shouted from the rooftops. If it’s to protect his family, I think that is unfounded. However, we can never put anything beyond the realm of possibility anymore. Especially when it comes to the Clintons and Soros.


13 posted on 12/11/2016 3:15:35 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: marktwain
"Drain the CIA swamp!"

Rid the CIA of Traitorobamanites.

14 posted on 12/11/2016 3:33:51 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Robert DeLong

What if it was the CIA that rubbed him out?
Somebody killed the guy who accessed Obama’s passport files and that murder is unsolved to this day.


15 posted on 12/11/2016 3:35:14 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Key witness in passport fraud case fatally shot ...
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport...

Apr 19, 2008 · Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, ...


16 posted on 12/11/2016 3:41:07 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The piece, excerpt, is spot on. Insider leaks and their own stupidity running their web sites, hillarys closet sercer and weiners laptop backup just in case.


17 posted on 12/11/2016 3:41:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The russians didnt set up or put,secret stuff on hillarys closet server.

The russians didnt put secret stuff on hillarys laptop.

This is wag the dog, blame an enemy of obama for,dissing him on syria, set up meme hillary didnt lose it was stolen, and try to shift democrafs as criminals and security breaches to poor innocent victims.

Not buying it. Their diehards will of course buy anything.


18 posted on 12/11/2016 3:44:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

WTF is the CIA doing meddling in domestic affairs?

They have no mandate to operate at the domestic level. That is the perview of the FBI/DOJ.

If we want a coup in idontgiveashitistan, we call the CIA. Voting irregularities are the perview of state governments, and at the outside, possibly FBI/DOJ if the fraud was perpetrated over state lines.


19 posted on 12/11/2016 3:50:14 PM PST by factoryrat (We reserve the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; All

There is no explanation because it does not exist how russians could do this.

If the documents are fake it would be easy to see but if this is so whyndid not tge campaign scream every time on camera they are fake?

If they are real, then why would you vote for people such as this kmowing what they feel about minorities and how they use groups of people and how,they comspired to screw bernie and his supporters, how hillary had russian connections via the uranium,one deal, and podesta did too, how hillary sold access and favors as SoS for moeny to their cgi fund.

Basically then you are admitting that the leaked truths about hillary may have made some people decide they couldnt vote for her. And that is the hackers’ fault?

I seem to recall in the past an incumbent republican senator Jack Ryan from illinois whose sealed divorce info was illegally leaked and instead of blaming the leakers, democrat barack obama used that info to run against him and win. No one on the democrat side called for anminvestigationmof the leaker or pumishment, they totally used that leaked info for their own gain.


20 posted on 12/11/2016 3:54:34 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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