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Election panel awaits judge’s ruling on Mich. recount
The Detroit News | December 7, 2016 | Chad Livengood

Posted on 12/07/2016 11:52:39 AM PST by bobsunshine

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; mi; michigan; recount; trump
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To: jstolzen

Thanks. People here are strapped beyond belief to get this done in the judge-ordered time frame. I have been extremely angry about this


41 posted on 12/07/2016 1:32:50 PM PST by MarMema ("you can't make up...a constitutional right to a recount" Beloved Mi AG Bill Schuette)
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To: jstolzen

Oh. I see you are a fellow Michigander. Now I get your anger...


42 posted on 12/07/2016 1:34:12 PM PST by MarMema ("you can't make up...a constitutional right to a recount" Beloved Mi AG Bill Schuette)
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To: DarthVader
He rescinds it and saves face or gets savaged by the 6th Circuit.

I don't think he cares. With Trump's election it's clear he is never going to be nominated to a higher court anyway.


43 posted on 12/07/2016 1:35:46 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: mrsmith

Who is the one jackwagon that voted to continue the recount when the Court said it was improper?


44 posted on 12/07/2016 1:38:17 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: FredZarguna

http://courts.mi.gov/Courts/MichiganSupremeCourt/Clerks/Documents/Recount%20lawsuits/154886_Application.pdf

aEUR<Jill Stein’s joint application for leave to appeal (in MiSC)
Filed 10:51 this morning


45 posted on 12/07/2016 1:39:43 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: vigilence
The US District Court ruling was on process; it was not on the merits.

The US District Court asserted jurisdiction as a practical matter: IF the MI courts upheld a recount, Goldsmith claimed a due process violation would occur if the recount could not be completed on time. Therefore, he ordered the recount to begin early, pending the MI courts' decision.

The US Circuit Court upheld Goldsmith's action on appeal, writing that he did not exceed his authority in ordering what was a prophylactic measure.

Even though the US Circuit Court made the ruling on a very narrow basis, a dissenting judge on the US Circuit Court found Goldsmith's actions improper, saying that restraining orders are not orders for actions to proceed, but they are causes for actions to be (oddly) ... restrained. So there is at least one sensible judge in the 6th US Circuit.

46 posted on 12/07/2016 1:40:33 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: mrsmith
-- ALERT: Board of Canvassers votes 3-1 on motion to instruct state elections director to end recount if federal judge lifts his order. --

That one dissenter is a wingnut!

47 posted on 12/07/2016 1:41:03 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: FredZarguna

It is costing our state a million dollars each day. And considerable hardship because if the way this state is developed.


48 posted on 12/07/2016 1:41:31 PM PST by MarMema ("you can't make up...a constitutional right to a recount" Beloved Mi AG Bill Schuette)
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To: MarMema
-- I guess there are no limits on his issuing his order? --

Nope. One of the tricks courts routinely use is delay.

49 posted on 12/07/2016 1:42:09 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Thank You! I was not aware they had yet filed.


50 posted on 12/07/2016 1:43:01 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

My pleasure. I was curious a couple hours ago, and looked for a filing ...

http://courts.mi.gov/courts/michigansupremecourt/pages/default.aspx


51 posted on 12/07/2016 1:44:14 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: RightInTheMain

That is exactly what he is doing.


52 posted on 12/07/2016 1:44:32 PM PST by MarMema ("you can't make up...a constitutional right to a recount" Beloved Mi AG Bill Schuette)
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To: EVO X
I think the statistics imply it's unlikely to be the result of incompetence. These errors are not seen elsewhere in the state, but are widespread in a Democratic stronghold.

Lack of funds might be an excuse, but, the precincts DID complete their counts. If the precincts were underfunded, they should not have been able to complete in a timely manner.

53 posted on 12/07/2016 1:47:15 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Bingo. He cares not at all.


54 posted on 12/07/2016 1:47:28 PM PST by MarMema ("you can't make up...a constitutional right to a recount" Beloved Mi AG Bill Schuette)
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To: Cboldt

I don’t think it matters what happens in the MISC. If they reject Stein, Goldsmith will slow walk the decision on stopping the recount until Stein files another motion on some other grounds with him. Recount will be finished by the time all this is wrapped up.


55 posted on 12/07/2016 1:54:08 PM PST by damper99
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To: Cboldt
Just curious for your take. What do you make of this:

That same day, Dr. Stein filed a response to the objections, asserting that MCL 168.879(1)(b) only required her to allege generally that she was aggrieved. She further asserted that the statue did not require her to meet any particular standard or offer proof to demonstrate her aggrieved status.

How is this a serious legal argument?

56 posted on 12/07/2016 1:54:56 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: damper99

Maybe. BUT, the recount now has no legal force regardless of how it turns out, and Goldsmith cannot change that fact simply by allowing it to continue.


57 posted on 12/07/2016 1:55:56 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: bobsunshine

To those of you who are interpreting this for the rest of us - thank you.
My take is that this is over, recounts or not. I was a pearl clutcher at the very beginning, but I’ve been over that for about a week.
I hope that the Dem vote fraud in Milwaukee and Detroit is exposed to the point that Stein/Hillary regret opening this can of whoop ass.
Always be careful what you wish for. Bad grammar but you get the point.


58 posted on 12/07/2016 1:57:45 PM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: Cboldt

Well we are screwed then. Thanks for telling me though. Do you know what happens if we cannot complete the recount in time as Goldsmith ordered us to? The whole state is charged with contempt? Or justvthrvrlection folk?

We are hurting here big-time. Scrambling for help with no notice. But then that was what Goldsmith wanted.


59 posted on 12/07/2016 1:58:43 PM PST by MarMema ("you can't make up...a constitutional right to a recount" Beloved Mi AG Bill Schuette)
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To: damper99

Congress can (and should) remove the lower Federal Courts’ jurisdiction from all recount issues.

Any appeal that challenges the state courts should go direct to SCOTUS. Time after an election is of the essence.


60 posted on 12/07/2016 2:03:43 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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