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HOUSE GOP EYES FOOD STAMP OVERHAUL, POSSIBLE REQUIREMENTS
AP ^ | Dec. 7, 2016 | MARY CLARE JALONICK

Posted on 12/07/2016 11:28:18 AM PST by PROCON

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To: steve86

These restrictions including loss of future benefits would occur whether the EBT card is used directly or if cash is withdrawn and then used (if they could prove it through surveillance video, etc.)


101 posted on 12/07/2016 2:20:10 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

How would they prove a SNAP cash withdrawal went for booze? I understand there’s an ‘underground’ sale of food stamp benefits for cash (like half the value .. you buy $100 of food stamps for $50 cash???) so those proceeds can buy the tobacco or alcohol, I guess.... there’s always ways to circumvent the law. Always.


102 posted on 12/07/2016 2:24:53 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: JohnBovenmyer

That is a great idea-it will decrease the EBT cards in record time-especially if the food is as horrible and tasteless as what Michelle insisted the kids get in the school cafeteria-that stuff would not even appeal to a starving person...


103 posted on 12/07/2016 2:36:15 PM PST by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to drive a hard line"...)
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To: EDINVA

They do set up “sting” operations, at least in my state. Video, undercover “customers” and clerks in on the deal.


104 posted on 12/07/2016 2:39:18 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: All

There is abuse in the Food Stamp program, just like any other program. But the Food Stamp program actually does help millions of people who really do need the help and are not cheating the system. You can’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Most of those who complain, actually only pay a few dollars in taxes toward the program. Hate toward the poor is an age old problem, that even the Old Testament prophets lamented against not taking care of the poor.

Very few think about what Jesus said about the poor in Matthew 25:35-40

35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[f] you did it to me.’


105 posted on 12/07/2016 3:35:35 PM PST by bereanrabbi
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To: LostInBayport

The MSMLSD folks never said anything when three years of no COLA for SS recipients during 0bama but if it happened during the Bush admin you’d hear the howling to the moon!


106 posted on 12/07/2016 3:57:38 PM PST by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: PROCON
i don't care if they are cutting grass with scissors of picking up leaves one at a time, no WORK no EAT!

NO PITY FOR THE LAZY!!!

107 posted on 12/07/2016 4:32:47 PM PST by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: PROCON

I think they can buy anything with their EBT cards.


108 posted on 12/07/2016 5:05:09 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: PROCON

I think they can buy anything with their EBT cards.


109 posted on 12/07/2016 5:05:10 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: PROCON

No prepared food. No sugar drinks. No candy. No lobster or crab. Fish, poultry, beef or pork only.


110 posted on 12/07/2016 5:19:56 PM PST by Rebelbase (Gatlinburg wildfire: over 1000 homes and business damaged or destroyed.)
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To: Little Bill

with swiss cheese/kraut/thousand island dressing grilled on rye bread—we call it a ghetto rueban.


111 posted on 12/07/2016 5:25:36 PM PST by Rebelbase (Gatlinburg wildfire: over 1000 homes and business damaged or destroyed.)
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To: Texan5
Yes, let those who really need the food and those who have shown they can eat responsibly can pick their own food. Those who can't (yet those whom the Democrats won't let us cut completely out of the program so WE are politically forced to take care of them) get treated in loco parentis with Big Mamma picking their food. Ideally have Trump run ads with Big Mamma promoting her diet food. Doubt she can take Nancy Reagan's advice and "just say no," to that offer. Those on the diet may eat other food... out of their own funds. The budget, their blubber, and Big Mamma's support will respond together.
112 posted on 12/07/2016 5:49:07 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Changed)
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To: BeauBo
This has been a priority of Paul Ryan since before he came in as speaker.

I've lost all respect for that guy, and I live in his district. I like my pan fried ribeye steak, with mushrooms and onions sautéed in red wine and butter. If you tell food stamp recipients what to eat, it won't be long before they'll come after my steak. I hope Trump tells Ryan to go to hell until he supports his trade initiatives. Bastard.

113 posted on 12/07/2016 6:24:50 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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To: PROCON

“...you shouldn’t be able to buy junk food with food stamps.”

I agree in principle, but many will argue that junk food = manufacturing jobs.

NO welfare benefits for illegals or for anchor babies of illegals.

The database needs to track ADDRESSES receiving food stamps or require fingerprint ID. Too many individuals are receiving benefits under multiple identities, and many addresses are receiving tens of thousands in benefits. The cards are parlayed into cash, which in turn fuels the drug trade, not to mention purchase of homes and cars, vacations, etc.

Random stings plus other methods to catch merchant fraud.

Crack down hard on fraud first—this would put big bucks back into the budget and help fund tax cuts-—then start scaling back on benefits in general.


114 posted on 12/07/2016 6:42:27 PM PST by mumblypeg (Make America Macho Again.)
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To: steve86

“No such thing as cash back on SNAP purchases within the system.”

“Within the system” i.e. legally, you’re correct. But it’s done all the time anyway. The customers know where to go. And it is VERY lucrative for the crooked merchants who hand out the cash.
It works like this:
Customer “buys” $100 worth of groceries, swipes SNAP card, $100 is deducted from balance.
Merchant’s submits his copy of receipt to state; merchant is paid $100.
But customer only takes $50 worth of the food shown on SNAP receipt; gets the “change” in cash or in trade for alcohol or cigarettes, often at a lesser amount, say, $30 instead of $50.

Merchant later re-sells the $50 food that was re-stocked, and for which the SNAP card has already paid him the first time.
So on the original $100 SNAP purchase, the merchant makes an additional $50 or more off the books, on that one customer.
This process is repeated, compounding the merchant’s profits.
Addicts are particularly lucrative; they’ll take $50 or less in cash and no food at all for a $100 swipe.


115 posted on 12/07/2016 7:46:22 PM PST by mumblypeg (Make America Macho Again.)
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