Recounts barely making dent in election results; Trump gains in Wisconsin

Fox News ^ | 12/07/2016 | By Andrew O'Reilly

[SeekAndFind]

Statewide recounts in key 2016 battlegrounds are proceeding in fits and starts -- but doing little to change the math behind Donald Trump's victory.

In Wisconsin, one of three states where Green Party candidate Jill Stein has sought a fresh tabulation, the president-elect has even gained on Hillary Clinton.

The push for a recount in Pennsylvania, meanwhile, is awaiting a federal court's OK, and a similar effort in Michigan has run into new judicial turbulence. But while Trump narrowly defeated Clinton in all three states, the numbers trickling in look unlikely to call into question the Nov. 8 results.

“In any election, the actual change in the margin of votes is very, very low,” Drew Spencer Penrose, legal director at FairVote, told FoxNews.com. “For people hoping for a change in results, I wouldn’t hold my breath.”

Here’s a rundown of what is happening in each state:

Wisconsin

With the Wisconsin Election Commission working since last Thursday – when Stein paid $3.5 million for the recount after alleging reports of fraud – there has been little change so far to the unofficial results reported on Election Day. Trump won the state by 22,000 votes over Clinton.

In a twist, Trump is gaining.

[hsmomx3]

I love it! Libs not so smart afterall!! I believe if Trump was not the nominee/winner, we would not know about this as most Pubbies are wusses.

[trebb]

I’m hoping the “judge” follows the lead of Michigan’s Appeals Court and stops this mess - he supposedly only ordered it to begin due to time constraints vs’ any actual standing by the Stein/Hillary/Soros folks and the appeals court has said there is no standing under Michigan law.

[Chad_the_Impaler]

A very interesting couple of paragraphs:

A controversy also is brewing in that county [Wayne] as officials said Tuesday that one-third of precincts could be disqualified from the recount because of problems with ballots.

Wayne County – home to Detroit – overwhelmingly voted for Clinton late last month, but officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 610 of 1,680 precincts during a countywide canvass of vote results. During the canvass, the number of ballots in precinct poll books did not match those of voting machine printout reports in 59 percent of precincts, 392 of 662.

[irish guard]

Don’t you think the states where Hillary won are counting their absentee ballots in order to make this look even worse? Normally, once somebody wins a state, they don’t count the absentees if the margin of victory outstrips the number of absentee ballots remaining. My guess is California, Illinois, New York and other largely populated states continue to count in order to make this worse than it otherwise would appear.

[ridesthemiles]

When the +votes for Shrillary that were done be people that were NOT eligible to vote are removed, I think she loses about 6 million ‘votes’.

[Spirochete]

[Was his name toxic due to the attacks from the left or due to his immigration and economic policies that put the welfare of Mexican illegal aliens ahead of US citizens? IMO, it was the latter.]

War in IRAQ

The Wall Street and Bank bailouts, TARP et al had much to do with it. Remember, the Tea Party movement started during the GWB presidency.

[billyboy15]

Lol, that’s FUNNY!!!!

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

It was due to the casualty count in Iraq, truth be told.

This should be easy to document, no? Cites, please.

If you want to see the extent of Bush's sellout of the US citizens, feel free to visit my FR home page. Bush's fingerprints are all over the real estate market collapse.

As an aside, did you support Bush's immigration and economic policies? Do you agree that Mexican illegal aliens are only here to do the jobs Americans won't do, etc.?

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

War in IRAQ

Nothing at all to do with the real estate market collapse?

Please visit my FR home page for the details.

[SoCal Pubbie]

If by worse you mean that making the popular vote margin as big as possible, thereby making Trump look bad, then yes I do believe that. If I misunderstand remaining then perhaps you could explain.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

The Wall Street and Bank bailouts, TARP et al had much to do with it. Remember, the Tea Party movement started during the GWB presidency.

The Wall Street and bank bailouts, TARP, etc. were a direct result of the collapse of the real estate markets, which also happened on Bush's watch. His economic and immigration policies lead directly to the collapse.

The Partnership for Prosperity Agreement (with Mexico) and New Alliance Task Force, along with his relaxation of interior and border immigration enforcement caused millions of Mexican illegal aliens to flood across the border to take advantage of his relaxation of banking rules that prevented exactly the kind of real estate fraud that overwhelmed the system.

Please visit my FR home page for the details.

[irish guard]

that is exactly what I meant. I think the Hillary states continue to count even though it doesn’t matter, since they know the margin of popular vote will grow.

[uncbob]

TARP had nothing to do with the democrats taking congress in 2006
It was the Iraq War diaster
That was the beginning of the end

[SoCal Pubbie]

That is why I argue this effort is not to reverse the election, but rather to begin building a narrative. SNL is sticking either the “Trump is an idiot” meme even after he beat a legion of politicians this cycle, including their teacher’s pet Hillary. The media has it’s marching orders and while “Selected not elected” can’t apply something like “Not my president” is doable in light of the popular vote.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

TARP had nothing to do with the democrats taking congress in 2006

You're right. It had nothing to do with the demoCraps taking control of Congress.

TARP was the gooberment purchasing $700 billion worth of 'toxic assets' a.k.a. subprime mortgages from the Wall Street banks who issued them to Mexican illegal aliens as a result of the changes Bush made to immigration and banking laws. (See: Troubled Asset Relief Program - TARP)

If you refer to my FR home page you'll see that in 2002 Bush called upon Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase commitments to the 'minority' market by $440 billion. Bush wanted to see 5.5 million new 'minority' home owners by 2010.

And, just who were these 'minority' home Bush wanted to help? I quote Bush, "Three-quarters of white America owns their homes. Less than 50 percent of African Americans are part of the homeownership in America. And less than 50 percent of the Hispanics who live here in this country own their home. And that has got to change for the good of the country. It just does."

Just to whom do you thing Bush was referring when he said, "...Hispanics who live in this country..."? Mexican illegal aliens.

Never forget that Duh-bya comes from a long line of Wall Street bankers and it was this constituency he served from the day he took office. First, it was laying the ground work for the the sub-prime loans via P2P Agreement (with Mexico), then it was the NATF. Once these were in place, he cobbled border and interior immigration enforcement and the feeding frenzy started. Once the market blew up, he used taxpayer money to bail out these very same banks.

[Deplorable American1776]

With the recount, Trump GAINED votes...hmmm. Thank you Jill and Hill, Trump got more votes that he thought.