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To: lionstar

What does this mean?


4 posted on 12/06/2016 9:14:51 AM PST by Ciexyz (After eight years of Obama, I can't afford to buy nothin'.)
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To: Ciexyz

Time to start requiring ID.


6 posted on 12/06/2016 9:15:42 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: Ciexyz

It means they had a lot more votes on the machines than they had signed in on the registers.


8 posted on 12/06/2016 9:15:46 AM PST by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: Ciexyz

Looks like it its a wash. Hillary won’t get more than a few dozen votes or so out of Wayne as the recount proceeds.

Its over.


13 posted on 12/06/2016 9:16:54 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Ciexyz
The worst case scenario is that the precincts in which ballots were stuffed don't get recounted, but all others do.

This could mean Clinton getting even more votes even though there is evidence that the Democrats were more likely guilty of fraud than the Republicans.

Another case of Friedman's Law of Unintended Consequences.

19 posted on 12/06/2016 9:19:04 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Ciexyz
What does this mean?

It means they've unintentionally discovered ballot box stuffing for Clinton, but the media are helping them brazen through it by pretending that these "irregularities" are proof that the Michigan vote was unfair to Clinton.

20 posted on 12/06/2016 9:19:25 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Ballot box stuffing, or ballots that were COUNTED but not entered into a ballot log. Last minute backroom old-fashioned ballot box stuffing. This happened in heavy ‘DemonRat’ precincts thereby creating a Hillary lead where there probably really wasn’t one.


28 posted on 12/06/2016 9:22:28 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: Ciexyz

They scanned the same ballots multiple times. Thus they had X amount of voters and 2X the number of votes or something similar.


44 posted on 12/06/2016 9:28:14 AM PST by RedWulf (Trump:Front Lines. Obama: Back Nine. Hillary:Nap Time.)
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To: Ciexyz

Absolutely, “ballot box stuffing.” What we observed in previous cycles in Baltimore with electronic voting was 200 or so votes cast (for the Dems) on each machine before the poll even opened. That would cause the symptom reported in Michigan.


52 posted on 12/06/2016 9:36:19 AM PST by jimfree (In November 2016 my 16 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Ciexyz

Per another story:

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/05/recount-unrecountable/95007392/

“87 optical scanners broke on Election Day. Many jammed when voters fed ballots into scanners, which can result in erroneous vote counts if ballots are inserted multiple times.”

My interpretation: The fine people of Detroit have discovered a way to pull the ballot out of the scanner at the last second, and re-insert it, and get a double vote. And enough people were doing this to accidentally jam 87 machines. Stands to reason that each jammed machine would have at most, one over-vote. Sounds like the discrepancy is more than that - pointing to a widespread use of this ‘trick’.


68 posted on 12/06/2016 9:53:09 AM PST by lacrew
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Scenario: 500 ballots turned in at a particular precinct. According to the machine, 400 voted for Hillary and 200 voted for Trump. This totals 600 votes.

So, the machine says 600 people voted but there are only 500 ballots. Therefore, the 400 vs 200 stands and a recount can not be done.

The real question is, why don’t the numbers match?

My take is that it might be fun to actually count the ballots and ignore the machine results.


72 posted on 12/06/2016 9:57:59 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Ciexyz

What does this mean?


Vote Fraud

People inside the system were casting votes for people who never showed up to vote


76 posted on 12/06/2016 10:07:58 AM PST by rdcbn ("There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alt)
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To: Ciexyz

Most likely that, in those districts, someone just added votes to the machine through some process other than filling out ballots and feeding them to the reader.


96 posted on 12/06/2016 11:19:09 AM PST by Boogieman
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It seems to mean that Detroit stuffed a lot of ballot boxes, underestimated what it would take to make Hillary win, and may prove Trump’s claims of rampant voter fraud if scrutinized too closely....


98 posted on 12/06/2016 12:09:22 PM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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