Posted on 12/04/2016 4:39:01 PM PST by ColdOne
Yep....seems to me just a bit ago after Trump won the astroturf people came out.
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Sovereignty means the right to act as final judge in all disputes, including disputes involving the sovereign itself/himself. The Indian tribes are not sovereign or anything like it, despite what treaties may say.
It isn’t on their land.
Excellent. Very necessary when going under rivers, through wetlands or other sensitive areas.
I expect that decision by the ACE will be reversed in a couple of months. The current folks in charge just kicked the can down the road so they can let someone else take the responsibility and the heat.
If there is a reasonable alternative way, that’s fine. These particular Indians will not receive any payment for a pipeline that is not on their land. Their loss.
One argument was that the pipeline ran under a river. It may sound reasonable at first, but it is not. You just cannot always avoid rivers. Our tens of thousands of miles of pipeline do not go beyond the headwaters of each river, to the other side. They go over, or under rivers.
If an alternative route proves to be too expensive, this topic should be revisited. A new President will make all the difference to the Army Corps of Engineers, if that is his decision.
Huge Dittos.
Our adopted daughter is a member of
Standing Rock.
Who stands to benefit the most from this? The Indians or the owners of the rail transport?
In Montana a pipeline along a river going through Indian land had a history of leaks. IIRC the tribe requires that the product be unloaded into RR tank cars which haul it past the sensitive area controlled by the tribe and then unloaded into a pipeline to continue the journey west to its destination.
The 200 mile territorial waters limit applies.
After all they are a sovereign nation!
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You are clueless to what is occurring here in North Dakota.
Mongo, why would Hedley Lamarr care about "where the choo-choo go"?
Don't know. Mongo only pawn in game of life.
since it starts out almost next to Minot, why not run
line to the east and south and avoid the dang “reservation issue” and why make a big loop to the West and cross
the Mighty MO twice...!?
You meant to say up stream as the Cannonball flows South to North until it hits the Missouri.
The pipeline already crosses the Missouri in western ND. Now it has to cross back...
I would make the tee pee tippers sovereign on their reservation but block the highways in and out and require a passport and toll to exit the reservation.
The protesters are using propane by the gallon to stay warm. Hypocrites.
It wasn't going on their land in the first place. Unlike the Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara and the Trutle Mountain Chippewa, the Standing Rock Sioux have no oil under their land. They do not own the land the pipeline is/was crossing. No, they weren't going to make any money off this. What do you think the entire delay was about? A hold up, in more ways than one.
The tribe has behaved dishonorably in this. I will never spend a dime at their casinos, nor on their land, and will make a point of never hiring anyone from the Tribe.
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