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1 posted on 12/02/2016 3:09:18 PM PST by EveningStar
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A mathematical breakdown of why the deal Trump made with Carrier is PURE GENIUS

The deal announced today states that Carrier will keep 1,069 jobs in the US in exchange for $7 million , over 10 years, in tax breaks from Indiana. These jobs on average make about $30 an hour. Full time workers on average work 2,087 hours a year so that means 1,069 (2087)($30) gives you approximately $67 million dollars in income a year. The state tax rate in Indiana is 3.3% so $67 million (0.033) gives you about $2.2 million dollars in state income a year while the state is only giving Carrier a $700,000 tax break a year. Indiana is getting a 300% return, per year, on their investment. This doesn't take into account the extra flow of money into the economy and Carrier's plan to invest $16 million into the plant itself. Liberals who are complaining about this deal need to learn basic math.

Spez: Sources: http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/state-taxes-indiana.aspx

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/94781008/?client=safari

Trump literally saved Christmas for thousands of kids whose parents can afford presents now... St.Trump!

https://investmentwatchblog.com/a-mathematical-breakdown-of-why-the-deal-trump-made-with-carrier-is-pure-genius/

33 posted on 12/02/2016 3:39:35 PM PST by Lockbox
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I betcha these hypocrites at NRO wholeheartedly supported Reagan’s bailout of Harley Davison.


34 posted on 12/02/2016 3:41:23 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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Shut up NRO ... you have the same credibility as the Dixie Chicks.


38 posted on 12/02/2016 3:50:23 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else.)
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My comment (remembered, but the gist anyway)

Here’s the difference: with tax cuts, it’s the company’s money to begin with! The Government is merely agreeing to stop confiscating so much of it.


39 posted on 12/02/2016 3:52:46 PM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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According to Scott Adams The New CEO’s First Moves (and Trump) the Carrier deal is Trump staking out his territory as the new CEO. A standard move for a new CEO. It doesn’t have to be good, in the long run - it just looks good right now.

Carrier will live, I’m not worried about the corporation. It’s not like Trump was shutting down every Republican-leaning Chrysler/Jeep dealer, which is what Obama did (lest we forget) in his first year. Now, that was tyrannical.

By the time Trump is through cutting corporate taxes, Carrier will be way ahead in short order. And Trump is giving them a PR boost in the meantime, predicting - implicitly calling for - a buycott of Carrier for their good deed.


40 posted on 12/02/2016 3:54:01 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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total nonsense...Indiana will spend 400,000,000 and gain 2,500,000,000....and 1,000 people will be able to keep their jobs and NOT GO ON WELFARE.


44 posted on 12/02/2016 4:02:25 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!!!!)
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Please, somebody translate this for me...boring AND I’m not a financial/business minded person.


46 posted on 12/02/2016 4:07:18 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: EveningStar

Shows the level of urgency for a massive recovery the private sectors needs,

or Trump doing what he could short-term,

he can’t pass laws or deregulate anything as President-Elect.


51 posted on 12/02/2016 4:18:50 PM PST by Son House (The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009; the Original Legislative Fraud.)
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Isn't rather difficult (if not impossible) to make a full throated criticism without first knowing the the facts ?

This must be why the article reads more like a drunken rant than an scholarly analysis...

52 posted on 12/02/2016 4:20:50 PM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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NR is bitter, like the Clinton supporters they are.


57 posted on 12/02/2016 4:45:53 PM PST by ozzymandus
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It is called economic nationalism. Ignore the calls of crony capitalism. We must do everything to make the US business environment welcoming to our own businesses and even those who wish to invest here.

The US domestic market is the biggest in world when it comes to consumers. We have all the leverage and don't use it. Cheaper goods for the consumer are great under globalism, but it is destroying the US middle class.

59 posted on 12/02/2016 5:49:21 PM PST by kabar
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The State of Indiana is free to do what it wishes as far as state taxes are concerned. The establishment types that could not win an election and stop the Left are peeing in their pants over a principle that comes secondary to the right of a State to decide such matters...


60 posted on 12/02/2016 6:21:03 PM PST by DBeers (The concept of peace in Islam requires not co-existence but submission.)
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Let me add the obvious question: How much in taxes was Carrier in Mexico going to contribute as realized tax revenue in Indiana?

Obvious answer: ZERO

61 posted on 12/02/2016 6:34:52 PM PST by DBeers (The concept of peace in Islam requires not co-existence but submission.)
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Not everything is about economics.

Many things of great importance are not.

The purposes of the US government are: “to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity”.


68 posted on 12/02/2016 6:51:13 PM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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Tax breaks are legal, and states often grant them to attract businesses. The cost per person of these tax breaks over the 10 year period are way less than would be spent giving these people unemployment benefits.

In addition, the money less people earn will help to keep the local economy going, and tax revenue from state sales tax etc.

Besides, Corporations don’t really pay taxes, as they simply pass those costs on to their customers.


70 posted on 12/02/2016 7:42:26 PM PST by greeneyes
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So the moral of the article is that conservatives should think tax cuts are bad. Wait..... What ?


74 posted on 12/02/2016 8:10:13 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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Was this guy in the room during the discussion among Trump, Pence, and the Carrier representative?
79 posted on 12/02/2016 9:56:19 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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Oh yes, Kevin D...charter member and founder of #nevertrump.


82 posted on 12/03/2016 12:00:43 AM PST by gogeo (That's my Trumpy!)
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Typical Republicans, and they can’t understand why they’re such losers.


83 posted on 12/03/2016 12:08:03 AM PST by OKSooner (Geno's is a tourist trap.)
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LOL! The State gave Carrier the tax cuts and it has been a practice for a long time for States to offer tax breaks to entice businesses to either build in the State or remain in the State.

I'm a bit disappointed in Palin's rant on this too.

84 posted on 12/03/2016 2:56:46 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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