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To: SeekAndFind

Facts don’t matter.

Headlines matter.

Trump won.

Next?


19 posted on 12/01/2016 1:12:55 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (The Media were SuperPacs for Clinton. Throw them in prison.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Fact do matter. Perhaps if you put aside your rabid Cruzite butt hurt you could see the fact that is is an utterly idiotic move it is for self styled “True Conservatives” to come here to whine and bitch hysterically because a taxpayer, Carrier, is allowed to keep more of their own money for the next 10 ygears rather then see it swallowed in the ravenous mouth’s of the Government spending class.


186 posted on 12/01/2016 6:22:56 PM PST by MNJohnnie (This revolt is not ending, it is merely beginning.- Pat Caddell)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Jane Long; semimojo
It is utterly amusing to me to see supposed “Libertarians” and self styled “True Conservatives" busy mouthing the Marxist economic dogma that all economic output is property of the State and any time the state takes less it is a “Government subsidy”. The dogma that any reduction in government taxation MUST be “paid for” by increased taxation on others is utterly absurd nonsense completely at odds with our system of Government.

No you foolish children. In our system, the State is granted revenues by the people as a collective good. It is their property granted TO the Government not vice versa. It is up to the voters in IN to render the judgment on their Representatives at the voting booth if this was a wise move or a foolish move for the collective to reduce tax burdens on Carrier in exchange for the collective good of keeping the 1100 jobs.

Your basing your argument on a fraudulent Marxist premise that the State is the owner, of all economic output and thus any reduction of taxes must be “made up” elsewhere. NO the people, via the avenue of their elected Representatives, can simply choose to give the state less of THEIR revenue at any time. Your fail point here is your are attempting to manufacture a false premise and then demanding everyone debate based on your false premise. Your assumptions are wrong so your whole argument is based on an intellectual fraud. You seem unable to grasp that point since it is a reasoned rational position that confounds your rote recitation of imprinted ideological dogmas. Like most dogmatists, you simply chat your dogmas louder rather then learn anything. That is an intellectually infantile response on your part.

196 posted on 12/01/2016 8:00:12 PM PST by MNJohnnie (This revolt is not ending, it is merely beginning.- Pat Caddell)
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