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1 posted on 12/01/2016 9:46:13 AM PST by jaydubya2
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The Art of the Deal


2 posted on 12/01/2016 9:47:00 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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NYS gives all kinds of benefits to businesses who rob the system by not living up to their obligations. Yes...of course they know the benefactors.


3 posted on 12/01/2016 9:51:14 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Typical and I’ve seen it done in my state, too. Both the company and the state need to find a more permanent solution because this is only a Band-Aid.


4 posted on 12/01/2016 9:52:03 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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The State of IN is letting Carrier keep their OWN MONEY instead of taxing it from them and “True Conservatives”, just like the buffoon Left, is crying “cronyism”?

Just how stupid is the “Conservative” purity choir?


5 posted on 12/01/2016 9:52:30 AM PST by MNJohnnie (This revolt is not ending, it is merely beginning.- Pat Caddell)
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We’ve got all those Gop governors and legislatures...we can fix this country


6 posted on 12/01/2016 9:52:37 AM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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So the taxpayers still getting effed Donald if this is your deal?


7 posted on 12/01/2016 9:53:08 AM PST by amihow
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Assume an average salary of 35k for these 1,000 jobs.

That's $35,000,000 in payroll.

How much of this is paid in taxes?

Assume a 15% bracket that's $5,250,000 in Federal Taxes

Assume a 6% local sales tax...that's 2,100,000 in local taxes.

That leaves around $25,900,000 of income to be spent at local businesses in that area.

Sounds like a decent deal to me.

10 posted on 12/01/2016 9:55:21 AM PST by ealgeone
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$7 million..... over 10 years
What a deal compared to putting 1000 workers and their families and employees of all the businesses they support on unemployment or food stamps and subsidies to supplement low paying part time work

How much taxable revenue will spin off from those jobs, healthy communities of employed workers, and all the other businesses touched by the presence and spendin gpower of those employees


11 posted on 12/01/2016 9:57:39 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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This is fairly typical. Large companies can constantly threaten to leave (even to another state) and try to get tax breaks - sort of like NFL teams that threaten to leave unless the public builds a new stadium.

On paper, the city/state still benefit, when the payroll taxes and future property taxes are all penciled out. However, often the company does not fulfill its obligations with job creation or retention, and the city/state are left with the messy business of ‘calling the note’, so to speak...or just losing out if they don’t have the stomach for that.

I have actually seen a magazine geared towards which states have the most breaks.

I think its overall a bad idea to have states and cities compete with each other with tax breaks (and by default treating the rest of us unequally under the tax law). But I think it makes sense at a national level, to keep companies from leaving the entire country. Now the companies would still want an incentive to stay, and one of the only things that can be done at the federal level is a ‘stick’ approach with tariffs.


12 posted on 12/01/2016 9:58:28 AM PST by lacrew
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That’s chump change for a corp that size. A fig leave to for them to hide behind, IMO.


14 posted on 12/01/2016 9:59:06 AM PST by lodi90 (President Trump - Has a nice ring to it!)
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Guys, this hasn’t worked for Upstate NY.


15 posted on 12/01/2016 9:59:21 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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Taxes are the leading cause of corporate flight. Fact is, the founding fathers knew that income taxes are ruinous to a country.


16 posted on 12/01/2016 9:59:22 AM PST by CodeToad (Ding Dong, the Bitch is Dead!!!)
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Do the math just on the jobs alone. 7 million over ten years equals a cost of $700,000 per year.
1000 Jobs at $50,000 per year equals 5 million PER YEAR into the local economy. That pumps at least $50,000,000 into the US economy over ten years.
A Cost of 7 Million for a gain of 50 Million is certainly a good investment.


17 posted on 12/01/2016 9:59:25 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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So what is that?, the cost of One Obama vacation


19 posted on 12/01/2016 9:59:42 AM PST by DanielRedfoot (Viva Le Deplorable)
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Obama’s Magic Wand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuhXkCF-L2E


21 posted on 12/01/2016 10:00:10 AM PST by gubamyster
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I believe that during the campaign he talked about lowering the corporate tax rate. This is a good start. :-)


24 posted on 12/01/2016 10:01:37 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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How much in taxes does indiana gain by having those 1000 people employed and not drawing unemployment benefits ?


31 posted on 12/01/2016 10:04:45 AM PST by hoosiermama (“Christian faith is not the past but the present and the future. Make it stronger. "DJT)
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So what! This happens all the Time! Even here in NC where leftist are trying to take over!

https://edpnc.com/incentives/job-development-investment-grant/?gclid=COamsZfL09ACFVdMDQodGH4Ipw


35 posted on 12/01/2016 10:06:00 AM PST by Harpotoo
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It’s a wonderful thing.


51 posted on 12/01/2016 10:10:54 AM PST by Enduro Guy (Trump/Pence 2016)
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So he went from a negotiating position of placing a tariff on imported AC units to retain 2,000 jobs in Indiana, to retaining 1,000 jobs and providing Carrier with $7,000,000. Looks like the management at Carrier knows the Art of the Deal.


52 posted on 12/01/2016 10:11:08 AM PST by oincobx
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