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The title references illegal aliens.

But legal non citizens also vote.

The number of non citizen votes is estimated to be several million.

1 posted on 11/27/2016 9:09:37 PM PST by detective
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You’re correct. SOME non-citizens can vote in school elections, I understand. I don’t get it.


2 posted on 11/27/2016 9:19:49 PM PST by cloudmountain
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The study was an advocacy paper.

A stalking horse to try to push alien voting.

The authors fail to mention that the aliens voting in the 19th century were typically English speaking whites who were on their way to naturalization in front of a judge.

They were “aliens” only in the legal sense. And they were not voting to give themselves welfare; it didn’t exist.

We don’t want cultural, ethnic and political aliens even thinking about voting in our elections. ESPECIALLY the people from the “country” next door, who we have fought two hot wars with and who still regard our territory as theirs.


3 posted on 11/27/2016 9:26:11 PM PST by Regulator
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Correct, but is illegal for legal permanent residents to vote. This is a bigger problem than illegal aliens voting.


6 posted on 11/27/2016 10:51:46 PM PST by kabar
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The election could have gotten even more interesting with a report that the majority of illegal votes were for Trump.


7 posted on 11/27/2016 10:56:52 PM PST by clearcarbon
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There are thieves everywhere these days.

Illegal aliens are trying to steal our country.

Hillary is trying to steal our election.

Democrats are trying to steal our money and rights.


8 posted on 11/27/2016 11:16:08 PM PST by Crucial
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The sample size for non-citizen voting in these two surveys is so small I don't understand how any valid conclusions can be made.

In the 2008 survey, there were 32,800 respondents.

339 respondents said they were non-citizen immigrants.

38 non-citizens said they voted (or the researchers verified that they voted).

So, based on those 38 respondents, the researchers, and the blog author, concluded that up to 2.8 million non-citizens voted in the 2008 election.

That is really hard to believe.

By the way...

I have great respect for “sundance,” the blog author.

His independent analysis and reporting on the evidence in the George Zimmerman murder trial was brilliant.

11 posted on 11/27/2016 11:41:23 PM PST by zeestephen
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/11/02/do-non-citizens-vote-in-u-s-elections-a-reply-to-our-critics/
“Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections? A reply to our critics.”

http://ww2.odu.edu/~jrichman/NonCitizenVote.pdf
“Do Non-Citizens Vote in U.S. Elections?”


12 posted on 11/28/2016 12:10:47 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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Ping


14 posted on 11/28/2016 12:40:49 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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Bookmark.


17 posted on 11/28/2016 3:33:01 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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18 posted on 11/28/2016 4:02:32 AM PST by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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Will we never learn? The focus on ILLEGAL aliens gives readers the impression that it is OK for legal aliens to vote.

The reality is that there is far more vote fraud by natural born citizens than by aliens.

There is far more vote fraud by legal aliens than by illegal aliens. But granted, this vote fraud is dwarfed by that of natural born citizens.

It is natural born citizens (usually taxpayer funded navigators) who register people to vote, including both citizens and non-citizens. When these newly registered do not show up and vote, it is then these same navigators and their organizations who vote on behalf of both the citizens and non-citizens who they registered.

Please, understand the role of community organizer, the role of navigator, the role of a ground game. Please, understand that community organizers and navigators get their funding based on their results in primary and general elections.


19 posted on 11/28/2016 4:04:57 AM PST by spintreebob
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I keep saying this: The US is the only western democracy that allows this level of vote fraud to take place. One of the priorities of the Trump administration must be to address this problem. There should be two goals:

1. Voters must show photo ID at the polling station to be allowed to vote.

2. Only citizens may be allowed to vote.

20 posted on 11/28/2016 4:16:40 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Gold and Silver are real money. Everything else is a derivative)
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From just TEN California sanctuary counties plus the sanctuary city of Chicago Clinton got 4 million more votes than Trump. Even if 1/8 were from illegal aliens that’s a quarter of her popular vote “lead.”


21 posted on 11/28/2016 4:22:23 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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"The title references illegal aliens. But legal non citizens also vote."

You're right about legal non-citizens voting but you're misreading the words "Illegal Alien Voters" in the title.

Since the article's statistics are of the "adult non-citizen population" it clearly means illegal "alien voters" as in all "aliens voters" (non-citizen voters) are illegal voters.

26 posted on 11/28/2016 5:43:10 AM PST by drpix
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“sampling error between 0.2% and 2.8% for the portion of non-citizens”

Hell.

Even a “conservative” so-called study on illegal aliens voting can’t get their sampling error to a factor of ten!

Everything is guesses: With Obola’s global socialists wanting only a few dozen voting and claiming “they are honest taxpayers earning a living” while we believe some 30 - 40 million are living here with MOST collecting billions in welfare and school and medical assistance while paying NO taxes and NO social security on the jobs they have stolen at all!


31 posted on 11/28/2016 7:48:32 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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We’ve fought for Voter ID in Texas for years, to stop this.


32 posted on 11/28/2016 11:40:56 PM PST by buffyt (Hillary and Jill and George and Barack and Bill, GO AWAY, LEAVE US ALONE!)
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I know so many young adults who never vote. This makes illegal votes even worse.


34 posted on 11/29/2016 10:39:49 PM PST by buffyt (Hillary and Jill and George and Barack and Bill, GO AWAY, LEAVE US ALONE!)
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