Posted on 11/26/2016 7:07:27 PM PST by drewh
Jill Stein posted to her Jill2016 website that she had raised enough money to file for a recount in Pennsylvania. However, the Green Party candidate left out some key details about the filing of recounts in Pennsylvania that many of her supporters likely would have wanted to know before donating. For example, candidates cannot file a direct request for a recount in the state and instead must appeal the election in court.
View image on Twitter View image on Twitter Follow The Trump Train @The_Trump_Train Donald Trump statement on Jill Stein's recount efforts: 3:25 PM - 26 Nov 2016 1,074 1,074 Retweets 1,806 1,806 likes According to the Recount 2016 initiative and donation page posted by failed Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein, the Stein/Baraka Green Party Campaign launched an effort to ensure the integrity of our elections. Stein noted that she was hoping to raise funds via grassroots efforts to demand that recounts take place in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. She claimed data has suggested a need for recounting machine-counted votes in these particular states, which also happen to be states that Trump unexpectedly beat Clinton.
Follow Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump The Green Party scam to fill up their coffers by asking for impossible recounts is now being joined by the badly defeated & demoralized Dems 6:31 PM - 26 Nov 2016 14,904 14,904 Retweets 42,094 42,094 likes Steins fundraising efforts immediately sparked the interest of Clinton supporters as it played on the hope that Hillary still had a chance at the presidency. Should all three states be overturned in a recount, Clinton would have enough electorates to win the election. However, Stein did not make the recount process clear for her donors. Her outline makes it sound as though a candidate can simply file for a recount if they raise enough funds for the filing fee.
While the filing fee and request is all that is needed in Wisconsin, her second state funded is much more complicated. Pennsylvania does not allow candidates to file a direct request for a recount, according to the Pennsylvania Election Code. Instead, the filing fee is simply the amount needed to appeal the results.
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SHARE 99 TWEET While candidates cannot file a direct request for a recount, they may appeal the order or decision of any county board regarding the computation or canvassing of the returns of any primary or election, or regarding any recount or recanvass thereof. During the appeal process, the court may determine that a recount is necessary. Per Pennsylvania regulations, there is only one way remaining for Jill Stein to get a recount in Pennsylvania and it is a complicated process. BillyPenn reports that Stein would have to file for a court appeal and present a prima facie case showing that voter fraud took place. While prima facie has a lower burden of proof threshold than beyond reasonable doubt, it is still significant. Stein would have to prove in court that fraud was probable. This is going to be very difficult given that even the computer specialists recommending the recount say there is no proof of hacking or fraud.
View image on TwitterView image on Twitter Follow Leah the Boss @LeahRBoss I'm just gonna leave this right here. 4:24 PM - 26 Nov 2016 383 383 Retweets 479 479 likes In fact, the Medium reports that Clintons own legal team headed by Marc Elias has noted that Clintons team had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology. The Obama administration echoed that by stating that the government did not observe any increased level of malicious cyber-activity aimed at disrupting our electoral process on election day. According to Newsmax, Obama is standing behind the results which indicate that Trump won the election, saying the election was free and fair from a cybersecurity perspective.
Elias also noted that in even the closest margin state, Michigan, Trumps win well exceeds the largest margin ever overcome in a recount. Therefore, Elias says that is why Clinton herself did not pursue a recount effort. However, since Stein has funded and initiated the effort, Elias says that Clinton will participate to ensure fairness.
Stein has maintained that the effort is not designed to overturn the election results, but rather to ensure transparency in the voting process. Stein has even criticized Clinton for joining her efforts so late in the game, calling her on-again, off-again about democracy.
Follow Dr. Jill Stein ✔ @DrJillStein Why would Hillary Clintonwho conceded the election to Donald Trumpwant #Recount2016? You cannot be on-again, off-again about democracy. 3:41 PM - 26 Nov 2016 1,411 1,411 Retweets 2,345 2,345 likes Follow Dr. Jill Stein ✔ @DrJillStein Why would Hillary Clintonwho holds "public" and "private" positionswant to engage in something as transparent as #Recount2016? 4:07 PM - 26 Nov 2016 594 594 Retweets 1,064 1,064 likes The deadline to file an appeal in court for Pennsylvania is on Monday, November 28. Stein has said she is filing but has given no further details about the efforts. Should she file, the next step would be to prove her prima facie case in court.
“candidates cannot file a direct request for a recount in the state and instead must appeal the election in court.”
duh, I should have known...
the next question is if they take it to court will they get a liberal or conservative judge?
She also has to show material harm... And with a whopping 1.something percentage of the vote any honest judge will toss her request. She cannot show that any fraud found would change her losing the election. This whole thing is just pandering to the radicals to keep them wound up and try to delegitimize Trump.
Hmmmm, so you think this is a Clinton cash bleed?
I would suspect this is irritating Trump more than a little bit. Legally he can not tell his Attorney General to go after Hillary or not. That would be undue influence. He can talk all he wants to to his attorney general to be.
If this crap keeps going on, I would suspect the conversation would be as follows, “when you are attorney general, enforce the law to extremis, investigate and prosecute if warranted and do not even tell me about it.”
Hillary is playing a very dangerous game that she will lose. She is trying to usurp the president elect of the United States. She is still playing for all the marbles and she will lose. If by some insane chance she wins, the next civil war just started.
Just saw the Fox News - Jeanne P and she had on a lawyer for Trump who was going to WI next week to oversee the recount. We live in interesting times !!!
So then what happens?
Yes it is, Philadelphia excepted. The rest of Pennsylvania is populated by people that act like Texans, but the really need to work on that damn accent they have. :)
the money transfer and state choices for the recounts are a dead give away, couldn’t be any more obvious, except for her “joining in” announcement today.
I think it’s actually 7R/4D, or at least it looks like 3 of the D are interim judges.
Nope! I have known a few that I liked although I did not avail myself of their services. They have much more honor than Jill Stein and were much better looking!
I might have misunderstood but I thought the idea was that investigation into PA voting would uncover Dem voter fraud and incriminate HRC.
Yes, I’ve also heard this.
PS - just a rumor(take with a huge bag of salt), but some people have gone as far as to say that HRC really only got ~10 million votes nationally and the rest were fraud. Lol could you imagine??
The wall just got ten feet higher and Hillary’s sentence just got ten years longer.
http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/pennsylvania/mc-pa-trump-clinton-election-recount-20161125-story.html
So, judging by this and how fast WI rolled over, if PA ever gets to the point where the court orders recounts, we will know the fix is in.
There’s that phrase “locked in” again. I still don’t know what that means.
East Texans sound exactly like Appalachian Pennsylvanians.
It was due to the southward migration of Scots-Irish.
I’ve talked to plenty and they sound just like home.
:)
They should have hired me instead of all these dummies just standing around letting soros and Hillary steal the election.
It's not Stein. it's not the green party behind this. its soros and Hillary the ones who will benefit behind all this so fight it and prove it but they are doing and have done nothing.That's fundamental to fighting this. they don't want to fight the pure greens and Stein but it's not them
Busted! Jill Steins Election Recount Is Being Paid For By a Bot!
Ask LS.
He seems to have inside info.
LOL... some speak Tex-Amish.
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