Posted on 11/26/2016 7:07:27 PM PST by drewh
Jill Stein posted to her Jill2016 website that she had raised enough money to “file” for a recount in Pennsylvania. However, the Green Party candidate left out some key details about the filing of recounts in Pennsylvania that many of her supporters likely would have wanted to know before donating. For example, candidates cannot file a direct request for a recount in the state and instead must appeal the election in court.
View image on Twitter View image on Twitter Follow The Trump Train @The_Trump_Train Donald Trump statement on Jill Stein's recount efforts: 3:25 PM - 26 Nov 2016 1,074 1,074 Retweets 1,806 1,806 likes According to the Recount 2016 initiative and donation page posted by failed Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein, the Stein/Baraka Green Party Campaign launched an effort to ensure the “integrity of our elections.” Stein noted that she was hoping to raise funds via grassroots efforts to “demand” that recounts take place in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. She claimed “data” has suggested a need for recounting “machine-counted” votes in these particular states, which also happen to be states that Trump unexpectedly beat Clinton.
Follow Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump The Green Party scam to fill up their coffers by asking for impossible recounts is now being joined by the badly defeated & demoralized Dems 6:31 PM - 26 Nov 2016 14,904 14,904 Retweets 42,094 42,094 likes Stein’s fundraising efforts immediately sparked the interest of Clinton supporters as it played on the hope that Hillary still had a chance at the presidency. Should all three states be overturned in a recount, Clinton would have enough electorates to win the election. However, Stein did not make the recount process clear for her donors. Her outline makes it sound as though a candidate can simply file for a recount if they raise enough funds for the filing fee.
While the filing fee and request is all that is needed in Wisconsin, her second state “funded” is much more complicated. Pennsylvania does not allow candidates to file a direct request for a recount, according to the Pennsylvania Election Code. Instead, the filing fee is simply the amount needed to appeal the results.
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SHARE 99 TWEET “While candidates cannot file a direct request for a recount, they may appeal the order or decision of any county board regarding the computation or canvassing of the returns of any primary or election, or regarding any recount or recanvass thereof. During the appeal process, the court may determine that a recount is necessary.” Per Pennsylvania regulations, there is only one way remaining for Jill Stein to get a recount in Pennsylvania and it is a complicated process. BillyPenn reports that Stein would have to file for a court appeal and present a “prima facie case” showing that voter fraud took place. While prima facie has a lower burden of proof threshold than “beyond reasonable doubt,” it is still significant. Stein would have to prove in court that fraud was “probable.” This is going to be very difficult given that even the computer specialists recommending the recount say there is no proof of hacking or fraud.
View image on TwitterView image on Twitter Follow Leah the Boss @LeahRBoss I'm just gonna leave this right here. 4:24 PM - 26 Nov 2016 383 383 Retweets 479 479 likes In fact, the Medium reports that Clinton’s own legal team headed by Marc Elias has noted that Clinton’s team “had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology.” The Obama administration echoed that by stating that the government did not observe any increased level of malicious cyber-activity aimed at disrupting our electoral process on election day. According to Newsmax, Obama is standing behind the results which indicate that Trump won the election, saying the election was “free and fair from a cybersecurity perspective.”
Elias also noted that in even the closest margin state, Michigan, Trump’s win “well exceeds the largest margin ever overcome in a recount.” Therefore, Elias says that is why Clinton herself did not pursue a recount effort. However, since Stein has funded and initiated the effort, Elias says that Clinton will participate to ensure fairness.
Stein has maintained that the effort is not designed to overturn the election results, but rather to ensure transparency in the voting process. Stein has even criticized Clinton for joining her efforts so late in the game, calling her “on-again, off-again about democracy.”
Follow Dr. Jill Stein ✔ @DrJillStein Why would Hillary Clinton—who conceded the election to Donald Trump—want #Recount2016? You cannot be on-again, off-again about democracy. 3:41 PM - 26 Nov 2016 1,411 1,411 Retweets 2,345 2,345 likes Follow Dr. Jill Stein ✔ @DrJillStein Why would Hillary Clinton—who holds "public" and "private" positions—want to engage in something as transparent as #Recount2016? 4:07 PM - 26 Nov 2016 594 594 Retweets 1,064 1,064 likes The deadline to file an appeal in court for Pennsylvania is on Monday, November 28. Stein has said she is “filing” but has given no further details about the efforts. Should she file, the next step would be to prove her “prima facie” case in court.
Thanks for info. Gotta try to see to it fir sure
That is why the recount has to be the result of a legal appeal to/through the court. Then it might be court-ordered. Jill is too ill-advised to know how this must be done so it will go nowhere and worse for them they are using "private money". Contributors should be angry at both Jill and Hilarious Hillary.
Trump MUST appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Clintons.
Gore didn’t win but Bush had good lawyers and the recount was observed. What is Trump doing if anything to prevent “the steal” ?
Gore didn’t win but Bush had good lawyers and the recount was observed. What is Trump doing if anything to prevent “the steal” ?
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Don’t know but I am more than confident he is on top of it and he will be sworn in. 100% guaranteed.
All these recount efforts (that have less than a one in million chance of changing the outcome; if everyone handles this fair/square by the rules) are actually a good thing.
1. We can better see what kinds of shenanigans may be going on in Milwaukee, Madison, Detroit, Philadephia, and other places by the Democrats.
2. Several million dollars will be leaving the pockets of Democrats that could’ve been spent on them getting socialist anti-Constitution candidates elected instead of people who obey the law and support the Constitution.
3. It’ll provide a few million bucks of economic stimulus to these States.
This whole recount business will backfire on Stein (and on Hillary, who is really the one behind this). Either the recount will show no substantial change from the initial vote counts, or if any evidence of voter fraud is found, it will be among Hillary voters in places like Philadelphia and Detroit.
So far? “tweeting”
The chances of overturning even one state is a longshot. My thoughts are they are only trying to get it into the federal courts. Maybe they are just trying to undermine Trump before he takes office as some have suggested. All I know for sure is, these people are evil beyond belief
Seriously?
I wouldn’t doubt it for a minute; and neither should anyone else.
Those two people are *never* going away.
Seriously?
I wouldn’t doubt it for a minute; and neither should anyone else.
She still wants it. That’s why she is joining the recount petitions.
Those two people are *never* going away.
Seriously?
I wouldn’t doubt it for a minute; and neither should anyone else.
She still wants it. That’s why she is joining the recount petitions.
Those two people are *never* going away.
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