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To: bray
If we want to put a major dent in their voter fraud sourcing the first step is building the wall.

Illegals voting is far from being the biggest problem in our electoral system. The causes of voter fraud stem from such things as early voting, outdated voter rolls, green card holders voting illegally (there are 15 million of them at any one time), and a lack of oversight.

The biggest factor influencing our electoral politics is LEGAL IMMIGRATION. Since 1990 we have brought in 35 million LEGAL PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS. They vote Dem more than two to one. If we don't reduce legal immigration substantially in the very near future, the Dems will be the permanent majority party. Demography is destiny.


8 posted on 11/26/2016 8:31:52 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Thanks kabar, well done and yes we need to cover all areas of voter fraud. The wall will start that process.


23 posted on 11/26/2016 8:57:27 AM PST by bray (The Silent Majority ROARED)
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To: kabar
They vote Dem more than two to one. If we don't reduce legal immigration substantially in the very near future, the Dems will be the permanent majority party. Demography is destiny.

Only if you automatically concede them to the Democrats and make no effort to win them over to our side. With Trump's victory, we saw the results of converting just a few million white blue-collar Democrats to the Republican fold across the Rust Belt and elsewhere.

This is just tip of the iceberg and President Trump has huge potential to convert other demographic groups like inner-city blacks, who up to now, were never courted by the Republican Party.

So yes, if we want to continue to write off everybody except white Anglo-Saxons, we are doomed demographically. But if we expand our message to all Americans who are sick and tired of the welfare state and the lack of opportunity in this country, it will be the liberal Democrats and not our side that reaps the whirlwind of demographic destiny.

26 posted on 11/26/2016 9:12:21 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: kabar

Exactly. Legal immigration is fine when you have labor shortages and immigrants who want to assimilate. We have had neither for decades. Time to limit legal immigration, until such time as both factors can be changed so as to benefit the citizens of this nation. By the way, I am in no way against illegal immigration in principle. I am the product of immigrants from two and three generations ago in my family, and my wife is also an immigrant. But they all did it legally, and with the specific intention of becoming Americans and raising their children to be law-abiding, loyal Americans.

It is also time to eliminate birthright citizenship. This can be accomplished by the simple passage of a bill in Congress, which would become law upon President Trump’s signature, that indicates that the United States has no jurisdiction over the children of two non-immigrant parents, unless both of them are green card holders. The 14th Amendment was intended to make sure that all former slaves and their children would be citizens. That was 150 years ago, and it should have no applicability to anybody else at this point in time. Additionally, we must eliminate the very concept of an anchor baby. Once you eliminate birthright citizenship, you will have automatically curtailed that problem. However, there are millions of people who were born in this country, who could have the fact of their citizenship be utilized to bring in literally dozens of other close and distant relatives. That must stop immediately.

There must also be severe penalties for businesses which employee illegal immigrants. We should target one large, one medium, and one small business in every state, and put the full force of law into jailing those owners of managers who knowingly violated the law, and into fining the businesses so severely that they must close their doors. Such will serve as a warning to everyone else. Once employment of illegals is substantially eliminated, millions will self-deport, and many who would otherwise try to enter this country in the future will not even try.

We need to have real penalties for voter fraud, particularly for foreigners on our soil. A single incident of even attempting to register to vote by a foreign national should result in immediate and permanent expulsion from this country. They should not even be allowed back in for a medical emergency. For citizens it should result in a felony conviction that would render them unable to vote. Part of the change in the law could possibly make that temporary, say for 10 years (under the theory of not having too severe of a penalty for one bad act), but a second or greater number of convictions at any point in time would result in permanent revocation of the right to vote, hold office, or obtain any kind of job that required a security clearance.

The dead must be stricken from the voter rolls, period. There is simply no excuse in the world that can justify not purging the rolls of people who have died in every single jurisdiction.

Procedures must be put in place to ensure that someone moving from one state to another is stricken from the voter rolls of their former state. I would favor a complete reversal of the Motor Voter law. Rather than allowing people to register to vote at motor vehicle departments, I would utilize those agencies to transmit evidence of a driver having switched their residence, and force them to be stricken from their former state’s rolls. Motor Voter itself must be eliminated, as it is too easy to commit voter fraud by non-citizens.

Finally, there must be a mechanism to ensure that every legitimate voter can only vote once. Picture ID at the polling place MUST be put in place. I also strongly favor getting a thumb dipped in indelible ink, as we did in Iraq when they had their elections. Further, there must be a mechanism put in place which would not allow anyone to both cast an absentee ballot and vote in person. Last, there must also be a law passed that requires all absentee voters to be counted. It is a national disgrace that literally hundreds of thousands of military absentee ballots are not counted, for a wide variety of bogus reasons (all of which, not so coincidentally, hell the Democrats). If anything, these are the first votes that should be counted, as our men and women in uniform ensure our freedom, safety and our very right to vote.


28 posted on 11/26/2016 9:17:57 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: kabar

Very good post.

The Democrats have a clear strategic plan: promote and facilitate immigration, both legal and illegal, and then harvest the votes that will become the basis for a permanent majority.


41 posted on 11/26/2016 9:44:59 AM PST by Starboard
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To: kabar
kabar :" The causes of voter fraud stem from such things as early voting, outdated voter rolls,
green card holders voting illegally (there are 15 million of them at any one time), and a lack of oversight. "

And also, lack of "Rule Of Law" Enforcement
by those with the responsibility and authority to do so.
Disinterest ..meh !

57 posted on 11/26/2016 12:17:51 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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