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Pa Gov. Wolf signs bill to allow Semi-Auto's for Hunting
abc27 Harrisburg ^ | 21Nov16 | Myles Snyder

Posted on 11/22/2016 4:32:28 AM PST by major_gaff

Gov. Tom Wolf has signed legislation that removes a ban on hunting with semi-automatic rifles.

Act 168 of 2016, formerly House Bill 263, also removes the ban on air- and gas-powered rifles.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc27.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: hunting; pa; semiauto; wolf
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To: major_gaff
Wolf > running scared

Trump/Pence 2017-2025

Big Stick, baby !

41 posted on 11/22/2016 6:06:33 AM PST by tomkat
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To: jimbug
I am an NRA member and an ILA volunteer, and I see this as a ploy.

When has the left ever legally reversed a restriction of freedom for the purpose of precipitating a "gotcha" event?

That is simply not how they work.

42 posted on 11/22/2016 6:08:22 AM PST by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: kvanbrunt2

This bill deals with SA rifles...SA shotguns were legal prior


43 posted on 11/22/2016 6:09:00 AM PST by major_gaff (University of Parris Island, Class of '84)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Hope you're out here in PAlabama, FRiend.

Stay outta the shitholes in the corners and you'll be amongst (mostly) like minds.

The T is the place to be   ;-)

44 posted on 11/22/2016 6:12:50 AM PST by tomkat
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

When you’re trying to get rid of the wild hogs tearing up your land, it doesn’t matter if it’s “sporting” or not.


45 posted on 11/22/2016 6:15:11 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Also, IMO it’s not sporting....

It depends on what you are hunting. If I'm hunting wild pigs I might want a semi auto, seeing how they sometimes hunt you back. Further, a lightweight AR chambered in 6.8 is very versatile. It's sufficient for most hunting needs short of thick skinned game. Performance wise it's similar to 30-30. Also, my experience is that a middling level AR is a better rifle than an entry level bolt action. Entry level bolt guns tend to have poorly fitted stocks, poor ergos, and varying barrel quality. Accuracy is usually mediocre and inconsistent. ARs side step the stock issues by not having a stock and the barrels tend to be more consistent.

While a middling level AR won't be a precision rifle it should consistently shoot 1.25 to 1.5 moa without many flyers. This is better consistency than I've gotten out of cheap bolt guns without any accurizing work.

For someone who is not going to work their hunting rifles over, I think a 6.8 AR is a better overall hunting weapon for most. For those that can do things like bed stocks and other accurizing work, you can get more out of a bolt gun. Basically if your idea of a hunting rifle is a cheap throw away gun like the Remington 770, you're better served by a 6.8 AR because the AR will last. The 770 won't.
46 posted on 11/22/2016 6:29:26 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I agree with you on all your points. My family has been hunting deer for generations. Semi automatics are not sporting. And they are dangerous as most people have not taken the Hunter Safety course the NRA used to provide.

My late husband, a Brit and from South Africa, was shocked by the shooting the first day of hunting season. He wrote to the local paper in Kwa Zulu Natal and told them all about it. “Hundreds of men and women and children in the woods, shooting from dawn to dusk. Sounds like a war.”

I, too, live in PA and we hunker down to big main roads and post no trespassing signs...if you don’t post, anyone can walk across your land. No one can shoot within 500 feet of the town boundry...good grief, that little law must have been put together in the 1700’s. Totally useless now to protect town’s people.

However, we desperately need the 2nd Amendment and I approve of hunting if people eat what they kill and to cull herds.


47 posted on 11/22/2016 6:45:52 AM PST by Bodega (elective, therapeutic abortion sequelae)
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To: Nextrush
He is one time Governor. I hope Barletta runs.
48 posted on 11/22/2016 6:51:39 AM PST by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I chose a semi auto to hunt caribou in alaska. Have you ever seen how fast a bear charges?


49 posted on 11/22/2016 7:06:20 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: tomkat

“The T is the place to be ;-)”

I had to look up that reference but yes, I am in Susquehanna Co. Although uncomfortably close to parts of NY and NJ, Trump signs beat Hitlery signs about 20 to 1.


50 posted on 11/22/2016 7:27:32 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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To: Lurker

Lewis and Clark took an air rifle on their exploration of the west. A repeater at that! While testing it in St Louis one touched the trigger and sent a bullet through the brim of a woman’s hat while she was walking down a street.

They used it to awe the Indians, and only had ONE run in with Indians on the way back.


51 posted on 11/22/2016 7:29:28 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Conan: To crush your enemies, and to hear the lamentations of their women)
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To: Vaquero

can’t beat the .35...hunert yards on in, thru brush....even 150or 2ooyds with confidence


52 posted on 11/22/2016 8:21:11 AM PST by MountainYankee
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Also, IMO it’s not sporting....

The idea is to get a clean kill or to follow up on a wounded animal quickly. A second shot with a simple trigger pull is faster than operating the bolt and may well be the difference between a humane finish and hours of tracking a hurting beast.

53 posted on 11/22/2016 8:22:41 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: smokingfrog
"When you’re trying to get rid of the wild hogs tearing up your land, it doesn’t matter if it’s “sporting” or not."

That's not hunting, that just extinguishing a pest...
54 posted on 11/22/2016 10:02:55 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: JimRed

Here in PA you cannot get a license without going through the hunter safety course, it has been that way at least two decades. The idea that new shooters will be unsafe is kind of odd, given that fact. Most of the accidents I have read about or have had an occasion to hear about were experienced hunters, not new ones.

They will most likely limit the semi-auto mag capacity to 3 shots, vs. I believe there is no limit on the regular manually operated rifles. So you will have a choice of a magazine of 3 with a rapid action, or the 5 to 6 shots common on bolt actions/tube fed lever actions. Seems kind of fair.

In the urban counties such as Bucks, Delaware and Montgomery they limit the use of arms to shotgun/black powder. That will not change.

Allowing modern sporting rifles (like the AR) for hunting is needed to make the next step in gun protection: ta role back the semi auto bans in states like New York, New Jersey and CA. To make the 14th amendment argument in court it is best to have semi-auto rifles recognized as hunting arms by the largest number of states possible.

I really see no down side to it.


55 posted on 11/22/2016 10:03:14 AM PST by Frederick303
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Texas Parks and Wildlife considers it to be hunting and will enforce accordingly, unless you are hunting on your own land.


56 posted on 11/22/2016 10:09:13 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: MountainYankee

For mine and my sons Marlins, I hand load 180 grain Speer flat points. They can be zeroed to 3-4”.high at 100yards. They’re right on at 50 and 150 and a few iinches low at 200 yds. At 100 yds they shoot 1” groups.

BTW I don’t like the hornady leverevolution ammo accuracy.


57 posted on 11/22/2016 11:07:57 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: angcat

York County State Senator Scott Wagner, my hometown elected official and considered the most conservative “Tea Party” politician in the state, has already announced.

He would be Pennsylvania’s Trump and Trump’s victory in PA helped fuel the decision no doubt.

I support Republican Scott Wagner for governor......


58 posted on 11/22/2016 1:26:38 PM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: Vaquero

YOU GOT IT DIALED IN ...

I do the same thing with my stuff. .270 two inches high at 100 yds with 135gr BT’s. At three hundred yards all you need to do is put the cross hairs on the target and let her rip. My 06’s all one inch high at 100yds with 150 BT’s (Hornady) funstuff.
I got a bunch of brass to work up over the winter. where are you located?


59 posted on 11/22/2016 1:35:46 PM PST by MountainYankee
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To: Vaquero

YOU GOT IT DIALED IN ...

I do the same thing with my stuff. .270 two inches high at 100 yds with 135gr BT’s. At three hundred yards all you need to do is put the cross hairs on the target and let her rip. My 06’s all one inch high at 100yds with 150 BT’s (Hornady) funstuff.
I got a bunch of brass to work up over the winter. where are you located?


60 posted on 11/22/2016 1:36:46 PM PST by MountainYankee
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