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Obama Admits He "Can't Pardon" Snowden Before A Trial - Sorry, Hillary
Zerohedge ^ | Nov 19, 2016 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 11/20/2016 10:37:49 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian

After everyone from Jesse Jackson, to the terrified mainstream media to prominent Congressional Democrats have called upon Obama to issue a blanket pardon for Hillary Clinton, he finally admitted that it's not possible to pardon someone who hasn't yet stood trial for a crime. And while Obama was referencing a potential pardon of Edward Snowden with his comments, one could assume that the law should be applied the same way for all U.S. citizens.

I can't pardon somebody who hasn't gone before a court and presented themselves, so that's not something that I would comment on at this point. I think that Mr. Snowden raised some legitimate concerns. How he did it was something that did not follow the procedures and practices of our intelligence community. If everybody took the approach that I make my own decisions about these issues, then it would be very hard to have an organized government or any kind of national security system.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; obama; pardon
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To: Reily

Probably skimmed the Cliff’s Notes before the final.

Seripusly, BHO is the classicaly typical AA top tier schools simply could not consider fail.

TV reporter James Ford, Yale, had trouble with simple declaritive sentences. Delta hired, and could not fire an aeronautical engineer who did not understand plane geometry.

The list is endless


61 posted on 11/20/2016 1:26:10 PM PST by Strac6 (My Sig Sauer, My Pilatus, Mrs. Strac... all the fun things in my life are Swiss)
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To: Reily

Typo

Fail = failing.


62 posted on 11/20/2016 1:27:46 PM PST by Strac6 (My Sig Sauer, My Pilatus, Mrs. Strac... all the fun things in my life are Swiss)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I was going to pardon you, before I decided I wasn’t going to pardon you....


63 posted on 11/20/2016 1:30:44 PM PST by Professional
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“”If everybody took the approach that I make my own decisions about these issues, then it would be very hard to have an organized government or any kind of national security system.””

HUH? You have to admit we’re going to miss this forked-tongued devil when he leaves the scene. “I’m not going to comment” while he proceeds to comment.


64 posted on 11/20/2016 1:42:55 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Strac6

Yes I have seen that too!


65 posted on 11/20/2016 1:44:04 PM PST by Reily
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To: Texas Eagle

“”I see right through this crap. He’s going to pardon her.””

You’re probably reading him right! He hasn’t been that hard to read all these years. Most of the time we’ve known what he’s going to say before he says it. I always said he was so transparent, you could see right through him.


66 posted on 11/20/2016 1:45:01 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: absinthe

One old Marine I talked to said Raegan’s biggest mistake was not strongarming Canada into returning existing deserters/denying new ones or authorizing black ops teams to go nab them if the Canucks were too stiff-necked to.

I then asked him if any fathers or uncles had of their own accord gone and grabbed their cowardly relatives and he said with a smile that he couldn’t tell me but “there were a few men who arrived with a number of their family or friends to ‘encourage’ them on their big day”.


67 posted on 11/20/2016 2:09:56 PM PST by Laser_Ray
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To: Former Proud Canadian

He’ll pardon Hillary.


68 posted on 11/20/2016 2:26:35 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I think Spacebar has it right:
Nixon’s trial was imminent. What Ford basically did with his impressive document (and unconstitutional imho) on White House letterhead was imply that he’d be pardoned in any event since Ford would still be President so don’t waste your time, and no one ever called his bluff in a court of law or in Congress. Instant precedent, just add water.

If challenged it would not hold up. But it was not challenged.


69 posted on 11/20/2016 2:56:14 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Revolutionary

Ford’s pardon of Nixon was challenged at least once and thrown out of court.

Supreme Court decision in Ex Parte Garland (1868), citing common law and original intent, has never been successfully challenged and isn’t likely to be.

There have been a number of presidential pardons/amnesties with no convictions.


70 posted on 11/20/2016 3:23:13 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The Nixon pardon was never contested and therefore not valid as a precedent. It was not necessary to litigate a matter that was settled by other means, namely resigation

the Nixon pardon is meaningless and the President just told you so


71 posted on 11/20/2016 3:34:50 PM PST by Thibodeaux (Exile Barack, Exile the Wookie, Exile Malia, Exile Shasha)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
But she still knows where lots of bodies are buried.

Or maybe the NSA has confirmed that what she knows is either way too old to be of any use, or doesn't have anything to do with Obama.

"Buh buy, Hillary!"


72 posted on 11/20/2016 3:40:10 PM PST by COBOL2Java (1 Tim 2:1-3)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
"See Ford pardons Nixon."

That's just about all Ford is remembered for.
It didn't help his career much.
73 posted on 11/20/2016 4:50:01 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: doug from upland

Know absolutely nothing about the law; but if one pRESIDENT grants a pardon, couldn’t another PRESIDENT rescind that pardon if any additional evidence comes to light?


74 posted on 11/20/2016 6:15:42 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 5th MEB
...couldn’t another PRESIDENT rescind that pardon if any additional evidence comes to light?

No. A presidential pardon is permanent. The receiver cannot be prosecuted for any federal crime committed during the specified period.

75 posted on 11/20/2016 6:35:19 PM PST by okie01
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To: okie01

Thanks for the info, key words being “FEDERAL CRIME”.
I’ll just add that to my mental file of interesting factoids.


76 posted on 11/20/2016 6:50:21 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: BipolarBob

That’s my reading of the situation.

What I think Obama is angling for is that the current board of directors of the Clinton foundation resign, and that Obama’s “slate” of directors be appointed in their place, with all of the Clinton cash left behind in the foundation treasury. Thus, Obama will end up in control of the Clinton foundation and he will truly have an “Obama stash” (thinking back to the two female morons who were interviewed on WJR in Detroit after the 2008 election).


77 posted on 11/21/2016 1:03:49 AM PST by nd76
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To: CIB-173RDABN

I think he is firing a shot across the Clinton’s bow.

I think he wants chunk of that foundation money- pay or get indicted- she gets a pardon check mochelle’s foundation for large donation from clintons


78 posted on 11/21/2016 1:16:11 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Texas Eagle

I agree with you. Obama is going to pardon Hillary. I remember when Ford pardoned Nixon without an indictment or conviction. It will happen again.


79 posted on 11/21/2016 3:52:12 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Enterprise
"Ignoring the subpoena can result in a contempt citation. "

Contempt citation? Like when Eric Holder was held in contempt by congress?

Isn't he still serving time for that? /s

80 posted on 11/21/2016 4:47:31 AM PST by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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