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Hillary Clinton’s Popular Vote Lead Expands to Over 1 Million
TIME ^ | 11/15/2016 | Sarah Begley

Posted on 11/15/2016 7:51:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Clinton currently has 61,964,263 votes compared with Trump's 60,961,967

As Americans’ votes continue to be counted, Hillary Clinton‘s lead over Donald Trump in the popular vote has grown to more than 1 million people.

According to the non-partisan Cook Political Report, Clinton currently has 61,964,263 votes compared with Trump’s 60,961,967.

The president-elect said on Twitter Tuesday that he would have run a different campaign if the election was decided by popular vote and not the electoral college, and would have “won even bigger and more easily.”

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; electoralcollege; hillary2016; hillaryclinton; popular2016; vote
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To: kabar

The other issue is that neither Hillary nor Donald got even close to 50% of the vote. In some elections, it wouldn’t be considered fair until they had a run-off between just those two. 4.2 million third party votes were for Johnson and it’s reasonable to assume most of those would split to the Republican in a run-off. There were also 700,000 votes for McMullin and Constitution party. Stein only had 1.3 million. So almost 5-to-1 third party votes were on the more conservative side.


101 posted on 11/15/2016 10:47:38 PM PST by JediJones (Social conservatism is the root of all conservatism.)
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To: political1

Absolutely true. Her California margin is 3 million. Take CA out, and Trump would be more ahead of her than she is ahead of him now.


102 posted on 11/15/2016 10:50:46 PM PST by JediJones (Social conservatism is the root of all conservatism.)
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To: JediJones

So far 130,909,030 total votes have been cast, which is more than 2012 and approaching 2008 when 131,473,705 were cast. Currently, 2016 is the second largest election total in history. It will probably finish first when all the counting is finished.


103 posted on 11/15/2016 10:54:31 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Yes. “Depressed turnout” is another thing the media was wrong about. Also, increased turnout is usually said to help the Democrats. Didn’t work that way this time.


104 posted on 11/15/2016 11:02:49 PM PST by JediJones (Social conservatism is the root of all conservatism.)
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To: kabar

California is currently 3.5 million votes short of their 2012 total. Most likely, most of this vote is still out there. Hillary’s lead will increase because of CA final counting, but this will also be the highest turnout election ever.


105 posted on 11/15/2016 11:04:14 PM PST by JediJones (Social conservatism is the root of all conservatism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If you dropped California from the vote count because of the massive ILLEGAL voting block and just totaled the other 49 states then Trump wins by approx 2.4 million votes.


106 posted on 11/15/2016 11:05:29 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: JediJones
Not Texas?

You could add, not Illinois, not Minnesota, not Oregon, not Washington?

Without the Electoral College, it would have been worthwhile for Trump to have chased votes in those places. Because, without the EC, anybody voting for Trump in those states would have boosted his vote total. With the EC, there is little point to wasting time in places like California, Illinois, New York, or Massachusetts.

On the other hand, without the EC, but with the House and Senate, there would still be reason to spread the coattails to places like Alaska, Idaho, Montana, and, yes, Texas. Because, even if you won the popular vote and the election, you still couldn't govern worth a damn without the Congress.

Trump told 60 Minutes, "I’m not going to change my mind just because I won. But I would rather see it where you went with simple votes."

But then, right a few minutes after he posted the tweet I quoted above, he tweeted:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/798521053551140864

If I were going to change the Electoral College, I would have the vote go by congressional district. One vote per CD carried plus two extra for carrying the majority of a state's CDs, or the popular vote in the event of a tie in a state's CDs.

That would achieve the geographic distribution objective and also limit the influence of urban cesspools. Under that system, for instance, it is likely Trump would have earned 15 of California's 55 EVs. Under the current Electoral College, the coastal urban moonbats were able to give all 55 EVs to Hillary.

107 posted on 11/15/2016 11:16:53 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

A big structural problem for the Dems is their primary is based on proportional allocation (before the super delegates). Their primary is designed for a popular vote election. The GOP has more winner-take-all states, so those candidates have to go through a process more similar to the general election. The Dem primary is set up to possibly reward a candidate who can only win huge margins in a handful of large states.


108 posted on 11/15/2016 11:48:43 PM PST by JediJones (Social conservatism is the root of all conservatism.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

They’ve found a lot of boxes full of ballets - remember the race where they found just enough cotes - in a bathroom - to win in one state?


109 posted on 11/16/2016 12:40:56 AM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does)
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To: SeekAndFind
Did they count the magazines they shipped last week with the drunk on the cover?

Ed

110 posted on 11/16/2016 1:02:27 AM PST by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: SeekAndFind

And if they were to only count the votes from living American Citizens, he wins by 2-6 million.....


111 posted on 11/16/2016 3:10:33 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: dowcaet

Maybe much fraud in Houston this time too!


112 posted on 11/16/2016 3:21:33 AM PST by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think such a large disparity between the electoral vote and popular vote suggests vote fraud on the democrats part.


113 posted on 11/16/2016 3:45:46 AM PST by McCarthysGhost
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To: SeekAndFind

You’d think they’d realize that voter fraud in deep blue states doesn’t matter and doesn’t help them.


114 posted on 11/16/2016 4:14:23 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: All

Laugh at them then ignore them.


115 posted on 11/16/2016 5:46:06 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: funfan

With all of the illegal aliens and foreigners that voted this time, I don’t know why she isn’t “up 50 points!” in the “popular vote.” ROTFL. Unfortunately, the snowflakes weren’t taught about how the system works.


116 posted on 11/16/2016 5:59:09 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (America sent the adults back to Washington. Sorry snowflakes, spring break is over.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The analogy here is a sports team is in the lead for 3 of 4 quarters. The other team comes back and wins the game. Team 1 then complains since they won 3 quarters they should be declared the winner. The game was to win the electoral college not have the most popular votes.


117 posted on 11/16/2016 6:03:41 AM PST by pas
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To: VideoDoctor

I hope that, even though Trump won the Electoral College, he will still challenge the results in several states, even California, Illinois, and New York, where the Democrats were likely to win, but where voter fraud would have helped Hillary fluff up the vote totals. Also, his team should look at Virginia, which for the first time in decades voted to the left of Pennsylvania. Fraud in Northern Virginia and the Richmond area is possible. Nevada is dirty, and has always been so. Colorado is another suspect area for voter fraud. Minnesota is another state Hillary won narrowly. Corrupt Democrats in the Twin Cities and Duluth could be the reason.


118 posted on 11/16/2016 6:19:05 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: ExTexasRedhead

RE: http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/06/exclusive-virginia-gov-pardons-60000-felons-enough-to-swing-election/

OK, that accounts for possibly 60,000, what about the other 900,000? All Felons in California and New York ( the two states that account for MOST of Hillary’s votes ?)


119 posted on 11/16/2016 6:42:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s a lot of Illegal Aliens, Felons, and dead people...


120 posted on 11/16/2016 6:42:39 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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